[meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.

[Jeff Kuyken]

I would tend to agree with this. I'm also curious why Carancas is on the 
list as a 'hammer'. There was only one mass which hit the ground. I know 
dirt clods hit buildings etc. but I was unaware of another mass hitting 
something man-made. Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong here?

Cheers,

Jeff


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman at usgs.gov>
To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.


It seems to me that this marketing term "hammer" should only be applied
to the actual stone(s) that hit a structure, not an entire shower.
Thus, Moss stone #5 is a hammer since it went through a roof, but stone
#2 is not since it only hit a tree and landed in some grass.

jeff

mail at mhmeteorites.com wrote:

> I think to be considered a hammer the meteorite needs to hit a human-made 

> structure, like a building or car. Seems to me that many have taken the 

> term and bastardized it to the point where it has lost its true meaning 

> and interest (at least to me).

> Matt

> Matt Morgan

> Mile High Meteorites

> http://www.mhmeteorites.com

> P.O. Box 151293

> Lakewood, CO 80215 USA

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>

>

> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:13:33 To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.

>

>

> Ehm is Ourique a hammer too?

> It hit a man made dirt road.

> And Hosur made a hole in a road too.

>

>

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von 

> Michael

> Gilmer

> Gesendet: Montag, 9. März 2009 16:57

> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.

>

>

> Hi Listees! :)

>

> I was compiling my latest inventory list, when I noticed that my

> collection of witnessed falls and hammers is growing to a semi-respectable 

> number - albeit still quite small compared to some

> of the envious collections other list members have.

>

> So I thought I would ask the list - how many witnessed falls and

> how many hammers do you have in your collection?

>

> Right now, I have 25 witnessed falls and 11 hammers :

>

> Hammer falls -

>

> Allende

> Carancas

> Claxton

> Gao Guenie

> Holbrook

> Moss

> Murchison

> New Orleans

> Park Forest

> Peekskill

> Weston

>

> Other witnessed falls -

>

> Bassikounou

> Chergach

> Ensisheim

> Juvinas

> Norton County

> Shalka

> Sikhote Alin

> Tagish Lake

> Tamdakht

> Tatahouine

> Udei Station

> "West" Texas

> Zag

> Zagami

>

> This is only the beginning of my obsession with certain witnessed

> falls and hammers.  I only collect recent falls that happened

> after I started collecting in late 2006.  So, basically from

> Bassikounou forward is fair game.  This is an arbitrary starting

> point, but it has meaning for me and gives me a firm boundary

> line to base my fall collection on.  I am missing quite a few

> recent falls - mainly the hard to acquire ones like Cali, Berduc,

> Buzzard Coulee and others which are not legally on the market or

> are too rare/expensive for me to afford at the moment.

>

> As for my hammers - I have no conditions on collecting them.  Any

> meteorite or fall that struck something is fair game and I want it.

> The more interesting the story behind a given hammer, the more

> interested I am in acquiring it.  Claxton is awesome.  Imagine

> how small a mailbox is.  Even when considering there are millions

> of postal boxes around the world, what are the chances of a meteorite 

> hitting one?  To me, that is interesting.  Peekskill

> is another great hammer - it creamed a Chevy Malibu. Of course,

> Peekskill may have been more interesting if it had struck an

> occupied vehicle, a police car, a hearse, or some other exceptional

> circumstance.  But until that happens, a Chevy Malibu will suffice. ;)

>

> New Orleans?  Very interesting.  First, it struck a house, but

> it also tore a path of destruction through the house, destroying

> a desk.  That makes it worth collecting.  But even more interesting

> is the overlooked fact that New Orleans is the only visitor to

> New Orleans to visit the area and not come away drunk, drugged,

> tattooed or sans virginity. ;)

>

> Weston?  Well, even if Thomas Jefferson had uttered the famous

> phrase he was misquoted for, the damn Yankee professors didn't lie.

> Anything that make a founding father look dense is worth collecting.

> I love Carancas - because it's a tease.  I would love to have a

> fully-crusted, whole individual.  But who wouldn't?  It's like

> Tatahouine - you aren't getting any crust and you aren't getting

> a whole individual, no matter how much money you offer.  You can't

> buy what doesn't exist, so Carancas and Tatahouine are the two

> teases of the meteorite world.  But we love to be teased, so these

> two falls will always be favorites of mine.   Did anyone ever

> find out what the so-called noxious fumes were that supposedly

> emanated from the Carancas crater?

>

> Murchison?  Smelled like rotten eggs, contains a bumper crop of

> amino acids, and is an interesting carbonaceous type.  It also fell

> on my wife's 8th birthday.  So, it's a must have.  We are fortunate

> that Murch happened before the Australians lost all good sense and

> got retarded about their meteorite laws.

> Allende!  Who doesn't love Allende?  If you don't love Allende,

> then you are a communist, a criminal, and you should be run out of

> town on a rail.  Allende is Mexico's Murchison.  And unlike

> Murchison, you don't have to mortgage your house to own a decent

> piece of Allende.

> Park Forest is also a favorite.  It's not just a hammer, it's a

> multiple impactor.  It's arguably one of the most prolific hammers.

> Park Forest beaned, struck, dented, and walloped a wide variety

> of targets.

> Well, that's some of my favorite hammers and falls.  What are your's?

>

> Best regards and clear skies!

>

> MikeG

>

> PS - Everyone say hello to Mr. Michael Blood, who I know it reading

> this post!  By putting "hammers" in the title, I have ensured

> Mr. Blood's attention and response. ;) LOL :)

>

> .........................................................

> Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)

> Member of the Meteoritical Society.

> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.

> Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com

> ..........................................................

>

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