[meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

[Galactic Stone & Ironworks]

"There have been some very convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have
fooled some of the best. "

And there are some convincing lunar-looking eucrites that the best
have fooled the rest of us with. ;)

Some of them are so convincing that they are lunars, right? ;)

The Moroccans are no more or less trustworthy than any other
nationality - including Americans.

I know the score now.  Others do also.  That's all I am going to say
in public about it.


On 5/17/09, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything to do with proper

> chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature assignment, TKW figures, science

> and collector confidence.  Just because a Moroccan dealer says something is

> a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask the buyers who got ripped

> off in Tucson this year and the year before. There have been some very

> convincing lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best. There

> was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed something was lunar

> before running all of the tests and it turned out to be a Eucrite. Many

> dealers had to recall the material after being in a hurry to put it on the

> market.

>

> To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the top of the

> meteorite collectibles chain every since the article, "Mining for

> Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine stated so. Only advanced mineral

> collections incorporate Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a

> fraction of its cost if the find location and history are not known.

>

> Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has happened with

> Martian meteorites and self-pairings.  One well-known dealer purchased

> material from a Moroccan who stated it was paired to one of our stones. We

> publicly objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our stones

> so he sent a piece in for study.  It turned out to be a completely new

> Martian meteorite that was almost lost to science.

>

> I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the same as some

> Martian meteorites. Total known weights have been carefully recorded to this

> point and it would be a shame to lose control.

>

> I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar material, have it

> Laboratory confirmed and pass the Meteoritical Society Nomenclature

> Committee for name assignment.  It would demonstrate proper respect for some

> of the world's rarest material.  Anything less is a disservice. Dealers are

> not allowed to rate their own diamonds or coins so why should meteorites

> that are much more rare be any different?

>

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Adam

>

>

>

> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>

>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

>> To: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM

>> Be careful Greg, now that you are

>> offering planetaries at reasonable

>> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by the

>> big guys -

>> then they will start stabbing you in the back.  Those

>> who are driven

>> by money are threatened by those like us who don't give a

>> crap about

>> profits. ;)

>>

>> Nice lunar.  If I wasn't already sitting on my fair

>> share of lunars,

>> I'd buy a piece.

>>

>> Good luck.

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> MikeG

>>

>>

>>

>> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> > Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from you.

>> Anyone who claims I did,

>> > I invite them post the email where I made that

>> claim...

>> >

>> > I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to Tony

>> Irving and the test

>> > results will speak for themselves as to what this is -

>> however Im sure

>> > anyone can see the picture of what I have:

>> > http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg

>> > and compare it with this:

>> > http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg

>> >

>> > I want to state for the record, I am selling this for

>> less becouse I dont

>> > need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell

>> meteorites to make a living,

>> > pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help increase

>> my personal

>> > collection.

>> > I know what I paid for this and if the others who have

>> this paid anywhere

>> > close to what I did, they could sell it for half what

>> they do and still

>> > triple the money they put into it - even with cutting

>> loss.

>> >

>> > I know who I got it from is honest and reliable as for

>> the authenticity.

>> >

>> > That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is done,

>> but when it is, I will

>> > sell it for well under $1,200 per gram...

>> >

>> > Greg C.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >> From: habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>

>> >> Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale

>> >> To: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>> >> Cc: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com

>> >> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM

>> >>

>> >> hi greg

>> >> this material  is not from me ,  however

>> it looks like

>> >> the monzoggabro,

>> >> but i m not sur is it isone from photo

>> >>

>> >> aziz

>> >>  habibi aziz

>> >> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco

>> >> phone. 21235576145

>> >> fax.21235576170</font>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

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