[meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

[Ted Bunch]

Dear List - Greg C. has supplied a sample for classification. Although the
sample looks like a lunar on first impression, Tony Irving and I will do the
classification and answer the question as to whether it is truly lunar or a
wannabe.

Ted Bunch


On 5/17/09 9:48 AM, "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote:


> 

> I understand that. I have already taken the steps to get it checked out.

> The first thing I did once I got it was to contact Ted Bunch.

> 

> Perhaps my post was a bit harsh, but some of the emails I have gotten made me

> feel like people are pissed that I am selling it cheaper then others want me

> to.

> 

> Greg C.

> 

> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 

>> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>

>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for sale

>> To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 12:27 PM

>> 

>> This has nothing to do with competition. It has everything

>> to do with proper chain of custody, legitimate nomenclature

>> assignment, TKW figures, science and collector

>> confidence.  Just because a Moroccan dealer says

>> something is a lunar meteorite does not make it so. Just ask

>> the buyers who got ripped off in Tucson this year and the

>> year before. There have been some very convincing

>> lunar-looking Eucrites that have fooled some of the best.

>> There was an embarrassing incident where a scientist claimed

>> something was lunar before running all of the tests and it

>> turned out to be a Eucrite. Many dealers had to recall the

>> material after being in a hurry to put it on the

>> market.      

>> 

>> To put things in perspective, Luniates are considered the

>> top of the meteorite collectibles chain every since the

>> article, "Mining for Meteorites" in the Smithsonian magazine

>> stated so. Only advanced mineral collections incorporate

>> Meteorite specimens. A mineral specimen is worth a fraction

>> of its cost if the find location and history are not known.

>> 

>> Advanced mineral collectors would be appalled by what has

>> happened with Martian meteorites and self-pairings. 

>> One well-known dealer purchased material from a Moroccan who

>> stated it was paired to one of our stones. We publicly

>> objected to this dealer using nomenclature assigned to our

>> stones so he sent a piece in for study.  It turned out

>> to be a completely new Martian meteorite that was almost

>> lost to science.

>> 

>> I would dislike seeing Lunar meteorites being treated the

>> same as some Martian meteorites. Total known weights have

>> been carefully recorded to this point and it would be a

>> shame to lose control. 

>> 

>> I congratulate anybody who is able to acquire lunar

>> material, have it Laboratory confirmed and pass the

>> Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee for name

>> assignment.  It would demonstrate proper respect for

>> some of the world's rarest material.  Anything less is

>> a disservice. Dealers are not allowed to rate their own

>> diamonds or coins so why should meteorites that are much

>> more rare be any different?

>> 

>> 

>> Best Regards,

>> 

>> Adam

>>    

>> 

>> 

>> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>

>> wrote:

>> 

>>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>

>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lunar available for

>> sale

>>> To: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:32 AM

>>> Be careful Greg, now that you are

>>> offering planetaries at reasonable

>>> prices, you are going to be viewed as competition by

>> the

>>> big guys -

>>> then they will start stabbing you in the back. 

>> Those

>>> who are driven

>>> by money are threatened by those like us who don't

>> give a

>>> crap about

>>> profits. ;)

>>> 

>>> Nice lunar.  If I wasn't already sitting on my fair

>>> share of lunars,

>>> I'd buy a piece.

>>> 

>>> Good luck.

>>> 

>>> Best regards

>>> 

>>> MikeG

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On 5/17/09, Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Not once did I ever say to anyone it came from

>> you.

>>> Anyone who claims I did,

>>>> I invite them post the email where I made that

>>> claim...

>>>> 

>>>> I am sending a sample off to be tested Monday to

>> Tony

>>> Irving and the test

>>>> results will speak for themselves as to what this

>> is -

>>> however Im sure

>>>> anyone can see the picture of what I have:

>>>> http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF1732.jpg

>>>> and compare it with this:

>>>> http://www.meteoritemarket.com/NWA4734-596A.jpg

>>>> 

>>>> I want to state for the record, I am selling this

>> for

>>> less becouse I dont

>>>> need to get rich off selling it. I dont sell

>>> meteorites to make a living,

>>>> pay for cars or houses... I sell them to help

>> increase

>>> my personal

>>>> collection.

>>>> I know what I paid for this and if the others who

>> have

>>> this paid anywhere

>>>> close to what I did, they could sell it for half

>> what

>>> they do and still

>>>> triple the money they put into it - even with

>> cutting

>>> loss.

>>>> 

>>>> I know who I got it from is honest and reliable

>> as for

>>> the authenticity.

>>>> 

>>>> That said, I wont sell anymore until testing is

>> done,

>>> but when it is, I will

>>>> sell it for well under $1,200 per gram...

>>>> 

>>>> Greg C.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>> From: habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>

>>>>> Subject: AD - Lunar available for sale

>>>>> To: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>>>>> Cc: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com

>>>>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:32 AM

>>>>> 

>>>>> hi greg

>>>>> this material  is not from me ,  however

>>> it looks like

>>>>> the monzoggabro,

>>>>> but i m not sur is it isone from photo

>>>>> 

>>>>> aziz

>>>>>   habibi aziz

>>>>> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco

>>>>> phone. 21235576145

>>>>> fax.21235576170</font>

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

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>>> 

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>>> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.

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