[meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco

[Melanie Matthews]

Hi Brian, listers. 
Actually it was a postal money order that I
mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it included the cost
of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail it back to
me and he said he did. 

Once I get the slip back I'm going to
get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to him -
probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts). 



At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites (all
unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all that I circled
some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program similar to
MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to him and
kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I picked sitting
on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the prices
until I made the final decition on buying five rocks together weighing
837 grams.. 



As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him and I thank all here on the list for their input/suggestions! 

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Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get!






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> From: searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net

> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco

>

> Hello Melanie and list,

>

> In regards to your question of sending payments to Morocco, I have to ask a

> couple of questions and others also mentioned they weren't clear on your

> question since you didn't seem to be including shipping costs. I'd like to

> help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful and kindest way

> possible, so please don't take it negatively or have any anger towards me.

> Make sure you include shipping costs when you were determining the total

> amount of the payment you need to send to the seller and then send a check

> and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs if that is what

> you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this in the past about not

> having money to pay for something or to pay for the shipping costs. It's

> good to ask for help if you are not experienced in sending payments outside

> of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided to send a check for

> the meteorites and then were going to decide about a payment for the

> "shipping" as a separate payment or to pay for shipping later on. Is this

> why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs after you had

> sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't sound right why you

> wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller for the items with

> shipping and or insurance and then send one payment and later decide you

> couldn't afford the shipping costs they gave you.

>

> Also, you stated you sent a "Paper Check" which, as I am thinking is a

> "personal check" from your personal Canadian bank account by what you wrote.

> I'm confused to why would you think that a personal check from your Canadian

> bank account would be "valid" as you say, to a dealer in Morocco, which I am

> sure it is valid in Canada and you have money in your account, but most

> likely would not be accepted in Morocco or any other country? You don't

> often hear of dealers in Asia, Africa, Europe or for the most part any

> dealers in the U.S. or anywhere in North or South America or Australia that

> would accept a personal Paper check from a bank in a different country,

> although it may happen. A check from a Canadian bank account or from a U.S.

> bank account or any personal paper check from any other country most likely

> won't be accepted unless they verified with their bank first that they could

> accept that check. An example would be if there was Citibank in Canada and

> then Citibank in the U.S. would accept that check or Citibank in England,

> etc. .I'm sure if the check was from a bank that had a branch in that

> country that it would be accepted, but it usually creates a hassle and is

> time consuming to stand in line or through an ATM. As several members

> mentioned bank wire is the safest and then probably FedEx payment, but

> sending a paper check or money order isn't a good idea as Gary mentioned.

>

> I would like to offer a friendly suggestion to help you out. Please make

> sure you discuss all the facts and figures with any dealer/collector

> anywhere in the world before closing a deal. Remember you are entering a

> contract with this dealer, whether it is on ebay or through their website or

> through correspondence with the dealer. On ebay this is stated as you are

> entering a contract so be mindful of this. You need to finalize all costs.

> You need to get the full amount that you owe in writing, email, etc. for the

> meteorites and any insurance and shipping and then you need to first discuss

> the method of payment to that dealer before you send any payment. I think

> your first mistake here was that it sounds as if you didn't determine the

> full costs of the meteorites with shipping, then you didn't ask the seller

> if he or she would accept a "Personal Paper Check from another country. I

> think you will have much better luck and increase good relations with

> dealers through online sales, ebay and through the different meteorite lists

> you if you slow down and get the facts before making purchases and payments.

>

> As you have written on your posts the equivalent of The Tom Hanks character

> from the Forest Gump movie, "Life is like a box of chocolates." You need

> to stop and think that your eyes are bigger than your stomach and stop and

> think of what you are wanting to bid on or buy first and how to pay for it.

> There is an old saying in America that you may or may not know in Canada.

> "Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" which roughly means you saw the

> food on the menu and you ordered all that looked good to eat, but your

> stomach wasn't big enough to eat it all and you became very full before you

> could finish the meal. This is the same as the child that fills their plate

> up and can't eat it all at home. This also goes along with shopping at the

> store when you are hungry and buying too much, as in buying more goodies

> than you needed. In this case looking at meteorites you want to buy and then

> not carefully researching making a payment and then feeling full of

> frustration and aggravation at how to make the payment or what road to go

> down. I truly hope this helps in the future.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Brian

>

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> Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco

>

>

>

> Hi list,

>

> Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer for a lot of

> chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he told me that the banks

> over there don't recognize it even though it is completely valid. I can't

> afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I want - which will be

> over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options do you suggest?

>

> Thank you in advance

>

> -----------

> Melanie

> IMCA: 2975

> eBay: metmel2775

> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

>

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