[meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco

[Abdelaziz Alhyane]

I call that the FACT, thanks Martin

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann at web.de> wrote:


> From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann at web.de>

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco

> To: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>, Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:03 PM

> Well spoken, Martin - I agree!

> 

> Matthias

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>

> To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:54 PM

> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Money Morocco

> 

> 

> > Good Evening,

> > 

> > maybe I should tell our experiences with our Moroccan

> colleagues,

> > as NWA is our main field of our occupation and Stefan

> was in Morocco from

> > beginning on of the NWA-period.

> > Because some of the assertions made here are in our

> eyes not acceptable.

> > 

> > First of all we all have to bring to our minds to

> whome all this wealth of

> > new meteorites that we have today is due to.

> > I'm old enough to remember the days before the

> NWA-rush, where dealers,

> > collectors and scientists traded forth and back always

> the same few stones.

> > Nowadays we got in roughly 10 years more new

> meteorites than 40 years of

> > Antarctic hunts will yield, we have all the rare

> types, where we could only

> > dream of the hundred years before. And we have them at

> prices, that finally

> > each and every collector can take part in that

> fascinating world.

> > We got from Morocco stones, of which no scientist

> could divine, that

> > something like that could exist at all.

> > NWA was the historical boost for science, for the

> collectors and partially

> > also for the meteorite trade.

> > 

> > And who made this all possible?

> > 

> > The Moroccan people and the people of Maghreb. 

> Full stop.

> > 

> > 

> > We hear here on the list so often rants and words of

> haughtiness about the

> > Moroccan dealers, hunters, colleagues, experts.

> > What I never will understand, how people could speak

> so bad about them;

> > people, who built up their wealth and their

> reputation, they pride

> > themselves today, with the stones the Moroccans

> delivered to them.

> > 

> > Why they then weren't going searching for meteorites

> by their own in the

> > deserts, if their business partners were so lousy as

> they tell?

> > Ask the US-hunters, ask the Oman-hunters, how many

> stones you have to pick

> > up, until you have a mediocre eucrite or a CV3, those

> stones, we all take

> > for granted.

> > 

> > The people in Sahara are doing an incredible job.

> > 

> > Yes of course, there are also black sheeps in Morocco

> - but those we do have

> > also among the Western dealers.

> > And of course down there is simply not the

> infrastructure, that one would

> > get each stone perfectly and readily classified and

> that the weights and the

> > find data would be known.

> > But that is a hundred times balanced, by the often

> lower prices there and by

> > the circumstance that one gets there such great stones

> at all!

> > Of course it can be here and there risky for a private

> collector, because

> > they often can't know the dealer yet, but why shall

> professional dealers

> > complain about the Moroccans? It is plain & simply

> part of their job, to

> > recognize the stones there, to recognize pairings, to

> buy them in Morocco

> > and to bring them to classification. If they don't

> want to do that, then

> > they shall sell classic and historic meteorites.

> > 

> > And some of the recent posts here on the list ignore

> the positive

> > developments, the Moroccans made. First of all you

> find a lot of true

> > experts there, who know their stones very well.

> Partially they started to

> > send samples to classification. Note also, that we

> started to integrate the

> > Moroccans into IMCA.

> > 

> > And that sweeping blow, condemning all Moroccans - we

> can't confirm that

> > perspective in no way.

> > Our experience is rather, that our partners, if a

> stone turns out to be a

> > pratfall, often are exerted to limit the damage, in

> taking back stones or in

> > balancing it with the next deal.

> > 

> > And why?

> > 

> > Because there exist a very simple rule. Not only for

> Morocco, but for life:

> > 

> > Treat your partner with respect and fairness

> > and he will treat you the same way too.

> > 

> > 

> > Our opinion.

> > Good night!

> > Martin

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

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