[meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

[Howard Steffic]

My point is, and perhaps you can explain why.........  Any meteorite dealer or professional hunter should teach anybody how be a competitor?

Do you think McDonalds would teach you how to run a restaurant?
 
The logic that is used by some of these newbies is what is moronic.  I don't hunt or sell but if I did, I wouldn't expect anyone to teach me how to be a competitor.
 
Respectfully yours.....

Howard Steffic 



> From: carothersdl at gmail.com

> To: bencubbin at hotmail.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD HORSEIs toMorocco

> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:42:15 -0500

> 

> Howard,

> 

> Your comment is moronic. This group is as much about posting information to 

> assist "newbies" as anything else. You should know better.

> 

> Dave

> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Howard Steffic" <bencubbin at hotmail.com>

> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 2:17 AM

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments - BEATING A DEAD 

> HORSEIs toMorocco

> 

> 

>>

>> Is anyone else getting tired of this moronic discussion?

>>

>> I laugh at how the "newbies" expect the veterans with the battle scars to 

>> tell them exacty how to .... Hunt Meteorites or Sell on Ebay or send 

>> money overseas. Get off the couch and do your own legwork.

>>

>> Now lets give this thread a proper burrial and get back to meteorites. 

>> Didn't someone actually find something (like a meteorite not an alien) 

>> that we can talk about?

>>

>> Howard Steffic

>>

>>

>>> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:54:25 -0800

>>> From: abdelaziz_alhyane at yahoo.com

>>> To: spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; 

>>> searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net

>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada 

>>> toMorocco

>>>

>>> Hello Brian and all,

>>> MoneyGram is available in Morocco, and Abdellah is a good person five 

>>> stars in honesty and trust.

>>> My best

>>> Aziz

>>>

>>> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>> From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>

>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada 

>>>> toMorocco

>>>> To: "Melanie Matthews" <spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com>, 

>>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>>>> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:39 PM

>>>> Hi Melanie,

>>>>

>>>> I'm glad you are on top of this and that you are keeping in

>>>> touch with the seller. I'm glad he's mailing back your

>>>> postal money order. Hopefully the Moneyram will work out and

>>>> he'll accept it as he said and you'll get your new

>>>> meteorites.

>>>>

>>>> I wish you all the best and hope that you receive some

>>>> really great and rare meteorites in the group.

>>>>

>>>> Have a great day!

>>>>

>>>> Brian

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melanie Matthews"

>>>> <spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com>

>>>> To: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>;

>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>

>>>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:15 AM

>>>> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments

>>>> from Canada toMorocco

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Hi Brian, listers.

>>>> Actually it was a postal money order that I

>>>> mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it

>>>> included the cost

>>>> of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail

>>>> it back to

>>>> me and he said he did.

>>>>

>>>> Once I get the slip back I'm going to

>>>> get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to

>>>> him -

>>>> probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites

>>>> (all

>>>> unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all

>>>> that I circled

>>>> some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program

>>>> similar to

>>>> MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to

>>>> him and

>>>> kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I

>>>> picked sitting

>>>> on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the

>>>> prices

>>>> until I made the final decition on buying five rocks

>>>> together weighing

>>>> 837 grams..

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him

>>>> and I thank all here on the list for their

>>>> input/suggestions!

>>>>

>>>> -----------

>>>> Melanie

>>>> IMCA: 2975

>>>> eBay: metmel2775

>>>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

>>>>

>>>> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you

>>>> never know what you're gonna get!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ----------------------------------------

>>>>> From: searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net

>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

>>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600

>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send

>>>> payments from Canada to Morocco

>>>>>

>>>>> Hello Melanie and list,

>>>>>

>>>>> In regards to your question of sending payments to

>>>> Morocco, I have to ask a

>>>>> couple of questions and others also mentioned they

>>>> weren't clear on your

>>>>> question since you didn't seem to be including

>>>> shipping costs. I'd like to

>>>>> help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful

>>>> and kindest way

>>>>> possible, so please don't take it negatively or have

>>>> any anger towards me.

>>>>> Make sure you include shipping costs when you were

>>>> determining the total

>>>>> amount of the payment you need to send to the seller

>>>> and then send a check

>>>>> and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping

>>>> costs if that is what

>>>>> you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this

>>>> in the past about not

>>>>> having money to pay for something or to pay for the

>>>> shipping costs. It's

>>>>> good to ask for help if you are not experienced in

>>>> sending payments outside

>>>>> of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided

>>>> to send a check for

>>>>> the meteorites and then were going to decide about a

>>>> payment for the

>>>>> "shipping" as a separate payment or to pay for

>>>> shipping later on. Is this

>>>>> why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping

>>>> costs after you had

>>>>> sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't

>>>> sound right why you

>>>>> wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller

>>>> for the items with

>>>>> shipping and or insurance and then send one payment

>>>> and later decide you

>>>>> couldn't afford the shipping costs they gave you.

>>>>>

>>>>> Also, you stated you sent a "Paper Check" which, as I

>>>> am thinking is a

>>>>> "personal check" from your personal Canadian bank

>>>> account by what you wrote.

>>>>> I'm confused to why would you think that a personal

>>>> check from your Canadian

>>>>> bank account would be "valid" as you say, to a dealer

>>>> in Morocco, which I am

>>>>> sure it is valid in Canada and you have money in your

>>>> account, but most

>>>>> likely would not be accepted in Morocco or any other

>>>> country? You don't

>>>>> often hear of dealers in Asia, Africa, Europe or for

>>>> the most part any

>>>>> dealers in the U.S. or anywhere in North or South

>>>> America or Australia that

>>>>> would accept a personal Paper check from a bank in a

>>>> different country,

>>>>> although it may happen. A check from a Canadian bank

>>>> account or from a U.S.

>>>>> bank account or any personal paper check from any

>>>> other country most likely

>>>>> won't be accepted unless they verified with their bank

>>>> first that they could

>>>>> accept that check. An example would be if there was

>>>> Citibank in Canada and

>>>>> then Citibank in the U.S. would accept that check or

>>>> Citibank in England,

>>>>> etc. .I'm sure if the check was from a bank that had a

>>>> branch in that

>>>>> country that it would be accepted, but it usually

>>>> creates a hassle and is

>>>>> time consuming to stand in line or through an ATM. As

>>>> several members

>>>>> mentioned bank wire is the safest and then probably

>>>> FedEx payment, but

>>>>> sending a paper check or money order isn't a good idea

>>>> as Gary mentioned.

>>>>>

>>>>> I would like to offer a friendly suggestion to help

>>>> you out. Please make

>>>>> sure you discuss all the facts and figures with any

>>>> dealer/collector

>>>>> anywhere in the world before closing a deal. Remember

>>>> you are entering a

>>>>> contract with this dealer, whether it is on ebay or

>>>> through their website or

>>>>> through correspondence with the dealer. On ebay this

>>>> is stated as you are

>>>>> entering a contract so be mindful of this. You need to

>>>> finalize all costs.

>>>>> You need to get the full amount that you owe in

>>>> writing, email, etc. for the

>>>>> meteorites and any insurance and shipping and then you

>>>> need to first discuss

>>>>> the method of payment to that dealer before you send

>>>> any payment. I think

>>>>> your first mistake here was that it sounds as if you

>>>> didn't determine the

>>>>> full costs of the meteorites with shipping, then you

>>>> didn't ask the seller

>>>>> if he or she would accept a "Personal Paper Check from

>>>> another country. I

>>>>> think you will have much better luck and increase good

>>>> relations with

>>>>> dealers through online sales, ebay and through the

>>>> different meteorite lists

>>>>> you if you slow down and get the facts before making

>>>> purchases and payments.

>>>>>

>>>>> As you have written on your posts the equivalent of

>>>> The Tom Hanks character

>>>>> from the Forest Gump movie, "Life is like a box of

>>>> chocolates." You need

>>>>> to stop and think that your eyes are bigger than your

>>>> stomach and stop and

>>>>> think of what you are wanting to bid on or buy first

>>>> and how to pay for it.

>>>>> There is an old saying in America that you may or may

>>>> not know in Canada.

>>>>> "Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" which roughly

>>>> means you saw the

>>>>> food on the menu and you ordered all that looked good

>>>> to eat, but your

>>>>> stomach wasn't big enough to eat it all and you became

>>>> very full before you

>>>>> could finish the meal. This is the same as the child

>>>> that fills their plate

>>>>> up and can't eat it all at home. This also goes along

>>>> with shopping at the

>>>>> store when you are hungry and buying too much, as in

>>>> buying more goodies

>>>>> than you needed. In this case looking at meteorites

>>>> you want to buy and then

>>>>> not carefully researching making a payment and then

>>>> feeling full of

>>>>> frustration and aggravation at how to make the payment

>>>> or what road to go

>>>>> down. I truly hope this helps in the future.

>>>>>

>>>>> Have a great day!

>>>>>

>>>>> Brian

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>> Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Hi list,

>>>>>

>>>>> Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer

>>>> for a lot of

>>>>> chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he

>>>> told me that the banks

>>>>> over there don't recognize it even though it is

>>>> completely valid. I can't

>>>>> afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I

>>>> want - which will be

>>>>> over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options

>>>> do you suggest?

>>>>>

>>>>> Thank you in advance

>>>>>

>>>>> -----------

>>>>> Melanie

>>>>> IMCA: 2975

>>>>> eBay: metmel2775

>>>>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

>>>>>

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