[meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule

[Gary Chase]

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Martin and List...........
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You have a good point Martin=2C it is all about respect for other list memb=
ers.  Every dealer bends the rules a little but 10 ads in 14 days?  That is=
 just in your face spamming and disregard for the rules.  Everybody knows h=
e has an ebay store by now unless they have been living under a rock=2C so =
what is so hard to just check it daily for those interested and make a 50% =
offer off of his inflated asking prices?
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Matin also has a good point on how this list would die if every dealer post=
ed 10 ads in 14 days.  So I will throw down a challenge to all dealers on t=
he list:
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Post an ad of your own every time Cottingham violates the rules.  This will=
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force the issue.  Either the rule will be enforced or it will be officially=
 eliminated.
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Also=2C to those of you who sent me private emails in support of my complai=
ning  about the Nigerian spammer on this list=2C you can participate too.  =
Since you are not dealers=2C just post an ad reminding everyone of other me=
teorites that may be for sale on ebay that are not your own.  This is kind =
of like supporting your favorite dealer.
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Gary
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> From: altmann at meteorite-martin.de

> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

> Date: Thu=2C 15 Oct 2009 15:08:13 +0200

> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule

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> Hi Jason=2C list=2C

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> I found out=2C that Art=2C the administrator IS Steve Arnold=2C Chicago

> and that he has running a bet with Cottingham=2C whether Michael can crea=

te

> more than hundred repetitions of the name "Cottingham" in the title of

> list-mails=2C reacting on his excessive advertising.

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> Jason & newbies. Cottingham is not the only dealer on the planet=2C who h=

as a

> large stock of meteorites for sale. There are several with similar amount=

s

> of material and interesting meteorites.

> How many members has the list? 1000? Many of them collectors=2C who want =

to

> sell or swap here and there pieces too.

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> Note that all professional major dealers use this list for solely

> advertising: Novelties=2C rare types=2C pieces with exceptional character=

istics=2C

> rare historical specimens=2C "hot" deals below market price.

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> Could you imagine=2C how it would end=2C if all of them would advertise l=

ike a

> Cottingham=2C if they would advertise their bulk=2C if all of them would

> obtrusively advertise each single piece with ads so long until it is sold

> like Chicago-Steve is doing it?

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> We would have more than a thousand ads a week.

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> I guess many=2C if not most members appreciate the list as a source of

> information (to a certain degree ads belong into that category) and

> inspiration and enjoy the discussions.

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> I really doubt=2C that anyone of them would be in the mood to rummage dai=

ly

> through hundred ads=2C to find the sparsely scattered posts with some mor=

e

> witty contents. Neither do have all the time to do that=2C nor is an offe=

red

> meteorite to the same extend interesting for all meteorite people.

> It would be like the annoying occupation to search through the hundreds o=

f

> Campos=2C fake Nantans=2C mainstream material on ebay=2C to find the two =

or three

> auctions a week=2C which fit in ones focus=2C budget ect.

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> It would be the end of this list. Full stop.

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> The newer members maybe don't understand=2C that this vintage-mailing-lis=

t

> isn't a forum where e.g. ads are sorted in an own board=2C so that they c=

an be

> ignored by those=2C not interested in. And that this form of conversation=

 is

> based on a different etiquette=2C than fast communication forms like a

> chat-room.

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> So keeping in mind=2C that here on the list are enrolled quite all of the

> largest dealers=2C the most successful hunters of the planet and a good s=

hare

> of the collectors of the world=2C

> Jason=2C then I have to say=2C the discipline to obey to the 1-Ad-per-wee=

k-rule

> is remarkable and the rule works well.

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> Everyone connives at an offerer=2C if he's somewhat excited and breaks th=

e

> rule=2C as long it remains an isolated case.

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> And if you look back=2C with all those many people here having meteorites=

 for

> sale=2C

> in fact only two persons suffer from incontinence and nocturia.

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> ....and here I see the problem=2C that new members see that the recklessn=

ess

> of two members (out of 1000) isn't sanctioned=2C so that they could feel

> invited to act in the same manner.

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> I think=2C they won't sell more=2C if they advertise several times per we=

ek.

> Decisive for a purchase are for a collector the properties and the qualit=

ies

> of the offered specimen=2C the price - and often enough his opinion on th=

e

> seller too. I could imagine=2C that for some collectors it could be even

> deterrent=2C to think about purchasing from a person=2C who present himse=

lf in

> public so impolite=2C reckless and egomaniac.

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> Well=2C my thoughts only=2C

> open the list for unrestricted spamming

> and you will loose half of the members.

> (and then it won't be attractive anymore to advertise here...)

> You'll see.

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> Martin=20

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> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com

> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason

> Utas

> Gesendet: Donnerstag=2C 15. Oktober 2009 05:18

> An: Meteorite-list

> Betreff: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule

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> Hola All=2C

> The rule was only good so long as dealers upheld it.

> It was originally put in place to limit Steve Arnold's (Chicago)

> postings=2C but it failed. Other dealers seemed happy enough to go

> along with it on their own out of=2C for lack of a better word=2C courtes=

y

> to other list members=2C who generally agreed that it was a good thing

> to do (at the time). It seems apparent now that most list members

> have no problem with dealers posting to the list as often as they

> wish=2C so it would appear as though the rule is no longer being

> advocated by either dealers or common list-users/readers.

> Thus the rule is=2C I would say=2C now null and void.

> For better or worse=2C so be it.

> But if you can't enforce it=2C and people won't follow it=2C it doesn't

> make much of a rule. And if a select few choose to go against it=2C it

> kind of screws over the other dealers who still abide by it=2C so I say

> to hell with it.

> We'll see what happens to the list...this could be interesting.

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> Oh - and I'll have some ebay auctions up later tonight for those of

> you who may be interested - hopefully within the next hour=2C but it may

> take two to finish it all up.

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> Regards=2C

> Jason

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