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<DIV>Darryl,</DIV>
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<DIV>I noticed and I'm sure most people that are concerned did as well. Notkin is the media guy who has in my opinion gotten carried away. Their chest beating over Brenham meteorites was fun when Steve found the big one. It's old news now. I wish him, Steve, nothing but success in the future. I hope he finds that elusive piece of the rarest of the rare we all dream about. In the mean time I'll puke if I hear more hype.</DIV>
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<DIV class=msgHeaders>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> darryl@dof3.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:38:42 -0400<BR><B>To:</B> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Fwd: Out in Left Field<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>folks,</DIV>
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<DIV>i hope you noticed the email below was posted to the list two days ago. </DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face=Helvetica size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Darryl Pitt <<A href="mailto:darryl@dof3.com">darryl@dof3.com</A>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face=Helvetica size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">July 7, 2007 11:39:48 AM EDT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face=Helvetica size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="mailto:cynapse@charter.net">cynapse@charter.net</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face=Helvetica color=#000000 size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face=Helvetica size=3 _style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [meteorite-list] Grandstanding?</B></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>as i previously wrote, one does not have to be a benefactor to a charity to be critical of the manner in which the charity's mission is conducted.
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<DIV>darren has eloquently addressed the problems here. and i still can't wrap my brain around why the media was invited to this internal fracas.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Darren!</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Did you contribute anything?</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">No, you don't need to respond.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And I wouldn't.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>That would be hypocritical of me, one way or the other.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The people of Greensburg need a lot more help, and using a large check is a <SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">way to get some attention to this cause.</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">It worked!<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>You are all talking about it!</DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">And you have the leadership of the town (and probably a part of the citizenry)</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">offended, and a negative newspaper article about the squabble going out for all</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the world to see showing backbiting amongst various meteorite collectors that is</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">par for course for the list.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Now, no matter what, there is going to be some</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">bitterness remembered for an act of charity.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Not all publicity is good</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">publicity.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I mentioned before (and some will choose to ignore that and only pay attention</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to the critical part) that "All the time, effort, and donations put into</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">collecting that money was nobile and admirable."<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>And the thought behind the</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">large cardboard check are pure, too, I'm sure.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>But how people would react to it</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">wasn't as well thought out, I would think (and sorry if that offends those who</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">worked hard on this).</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thesis 1: Being able to give to charity makes you feel good.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thesis 2: Having been reduced to needing charity makes you feel bad.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thesis 3: A public presenting of a large check to a town official implies a need</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for a public reaction-- applause, a heartfelt thank you, acknowledgement of your</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">being able to help and their needing it.</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I imagine that, being in a small, non-rich community in the middle of nowhere in</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the middle of nowhere, the people of Haviland are pretty proud and independant</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">minded.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I imagine that they are humuliated to be reduced to having to accept</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">handouts from strangers just to keep rooves over their heads, food in their</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">stomachs, and clothes on their backs.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Helping them is good.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Helping them makes</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">you feel good.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Having some sort of ceremonial closure to the long hours and the</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">money you spent collecting money makes you feel good.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>But being explicitly and</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">publicly reminded that they NEED the charity of strangers does NOT make the</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">people being donated to feel good.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Sure, they are happy that people do look out</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for each other, and that they are getting help.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>But they feel horrible that</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">they NEED help.</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I just think that large cardboard checks are an item for HAPPY occasion--</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">lottery and contest winners, mostly.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>A charitable donation to the survivors of</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">a destroyed is NOT a happy occasion.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>It is a solemn, embarrassing, and sad one</DIV>
<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for those who were actually affected by the tornado.<SPAN _class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>And those always blessed</DIV>
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<DIV _style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">accepting charity Just Don't Get It.</DIV>
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