New moderate power steam?

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And the latest Greg Scholl video/DVD N&W Steam Freights (available from
the Commissary)  shows K-1 112 (or 114?)working as the west end shifter
on the Peavine in 1955-56 in and around Batavia Ohio.  

For many years the M-1's worked the West End Shifter or the East End
Shifter on the Peavine, working from Clare Yard, Cincinnati to
Hillsboro, Oh on the Hillsboro Branch and back or from Portsmouth, Ohio
to Hillsboro and back.  

(Over the years there were a number of different ways the shifters could
work this line. Out and back.  Clare to Portsmouth. Portsmouth to
Clare.)

The M-1's lasted until the later 1940's when Class Z's were used.

But, the K-1's were assigned to Clare in about 1954 to work the shifter
and act as back-up passenger power.  The crews found them a little
slippery on the Hillsboro Branch, but fast on the rest of the Peavine.  

G Rolih Cincinnati

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K1s were not too big for local freights.  In the 1950s they were used on
the
Norfolk Division, the Bristol Line, the Kenova, Columbus and Cincinnati
Districts.

M2s were used west of Crewe; 2000s were used on the Blue Ridge Shifter;
2000s were used on locals 93 and 100 between Roanoke and Bluefield; Zs
and
2000s were used on the Potts Valley Shifter.  Zs and 2000s were used on
the
North Carolina Branch, the Pokey main line and the Clinch Valley.

I think it can be safely assumed that at that late date there was no
thought
of building another K or something like it for locals.  N&W was just
waiting
for the financials to get right; when they did, the diesels came, and
GP9s
and RS11s could do anything.

Ed King


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> Maybe this has been discussed before, but:
>
> With the Ms getting pretty long in the tooth in the late '40s/early
> '50s (I remember VGN engine terminal folks taking about the
> deteriorating reliablity of the younger MBs in 1950), does anyone know
> of any ideas kicking around Roanoke at the time for a new, medium duty
> loco design?  No matter how well a machine is maintained, sooner or
> later, its bones begin to break.
>
> I think someone said that the 4-8-2s were used for road jobs too light
> for an A or a Y, but they were still kinda big for peddler freights,
> etc.
>
> pete groom
>
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