Insulators

Sun Dec 19 23:30:35 EST 2004

Jim

Are you sure?  I've got it as rule 104 in the May 4, 1941 and rule 103 in July 
21, 1955.

Stoney
Rick C. Stone
Member #1

nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:
> Bingo Gordon!
> 
> My Shenandoah Division ETT No. 10, effective Sunday, April 29, 1956, 
> contains the same exact general rule.  However, this rule is absent from 
> my Shenandoah Division ETT No. 3, effective Sunday, June 16, 1946.
> 
> Anybody narrow this down any further?
> 
> Jim Brewer
> Glenwood MD
> www.pocahontasmodels.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: "N&amp;W Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Insulators
> 
> 
>> Using Pocahontas Division Emp. TT No. 23, Eff. 10/31/65 as an example,
>> General Rule No. 14 states, "White porcelain insulators have been 
>> installed
>> on certain portions of the Railway's communication pole line to 
>> indicate the
>> dispatcher's circuit.  Portable telephone users, when hooking up 
>> telephones,
>> will connect to this circuit.
>>
>> "Caution must be exercised to see that connections are made only to the
>> Railway's communication pole line.  At some locations power companies, 
>> where
>> their lines cross our tracks or parallel our tracks either on or off the
>> right of way, use white insulators."
>>
>> Gordon Hamilton
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> To: "N&amp,W Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:55 PM
>> Subject: Insulators
>>
>>
>>> To: "N&W Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:24:26 -0500
>>> From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
>>> Subject:  White Insulators
>>>
>>> N&W used two white insulators on its lineside poles.
>>> I believe these insulators were used on the lines
>>> (wires) that allowed communication with the dispatcher
>>> and station agents along the right-of-way.  In an
>>> emergency, the train crews could attach a portable
>>> handset to these lines in order to communicate with
>>> other personnel.
>>>
>>> My question involves the location/placement of the
>>> white insulators.  I believe they were always on the
>>> lowest arm of the lineside pole, and were the two
>>> insulators closest to the track.  I've looked through
>>> numerous books but can't seem to verify this.
>>>
>>> I believe all other insulators were green in color,
>>> but I'm not certain about this.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a better insight into this interesting
>>> detail?
>>>
>>> Jim Brewer
>>> Glenwood MD
>>> www.pocahontasmodels.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:55:48 -0500
>>> To: "N&W Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>> From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
>>> Subject: Re: White Insulators
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> After a recent post on this subject I have been
>>> looking out for the white insulators. On the Pumpkin
>>> Vine near Starkey, VA they are located on the lowest
>>> arm, nearest the track. At one time they may have
>>> existed on all poles, but now most --but not every--
>>> pole has two white insulators.  When they are not
>>> white they are usually clear.
>>>
>>> The other insulators on the pole are a mixture of
>>> clear and green.
>>>
>>> I have not spotted any white insulators on the Main
>>> Line through Vinton, VA. Just a mixture of clear and
>>> green. Did this line ever have white insulators? Or
>>> were they only specific to certain divisions?
>>>
>>> Ron Davis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> December 16, 2004
>>>
>>> Hello, all:
>>>
>>> I do not think train crews had portable telephone sets
>>> to tap into the dispatcher lines.  Also, they would
>>> have to climb a pole to reach the wires.  It's my
>>> belief that signals and communications were the only
>>> people who made temporary connections, but might have
>>> done this under emergency conditions such as at a
>>> wreck site.
>>>
>>> The other color insulator used consistently on N&W
>>> lines was brown-glazed porcelain.  These were for the
>>> 440-volt conductors on the top crossarm.
>>>
>>> By the way, along the Hagerstown District, the white
>>> insulators remain.  However, even though other wires
>>> remain on the pole line, the wires have been removed
>>> from the dispatcher line and an adjoining message line
>>> (I think).  This suggests to me that dispatcher and
>>> message communications were removed from the pole line
>>> well before the signal code lines on upper crossarms
>>> were deactivated.  Does anyone know this to be a fact,
>>> or when the wire removal took place?  Is the same lack
>>> of wires attached to white insulators evident
>>> elsewhere on the N&W?
>>>
>>> By the way, I understand the contractor removal crew
>>> reached Elkton from Roanoke, but there is no
>>> currently-active code line removal in progress.  Ben,
>>> has worked resumed on the Bristol code line removal?
>>>
>>> Happy holidays,
>>>
>>>
>>> =====
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