SD45's

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Thanks much, Bill

Pete Groom
On May 5, 2005, at 3:34 PM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:

> This is data from Bowers: several units went to Morrison-Knudsen via 
> third parties, were rebuilt by M-K and added to their lease fleet 
> designated SD40M-2s, i.e. downrated SD45s. For one example, 1770 was 
> leased to W&LE, then sold to National Railway Equip., which resold it 
> to M-K. It was then leased to SP as 8661. The Roster doesn't tell how 
> long it served on SP or what its ultimate fate was.
>
> A review of this data, which came from N&W records, indicates the 
> following served on SP, albeit via M-K lease: 1753, 1767, 1769 and 
> 1770. I could have made it clearer that they served on some of those 
> RRs via lease arrangements, not ownership.
>
> This may not answer all of your questions, but I hope it helps some
>
> Bill McClure
>
>
>> Bill:
>>
>> What do you mean by stating that SP  " . . . ran ex-N&W SD45s  . . . 
>> "?
>>
>> 1.  Operated them to run off HP hours owed by the SD45s' owners?
>>
>> 2. Bought or leased ex-N&W SD45s?
>>
>> I'm far from a real expert in SP diesels, but SP has been my hometown
>> (SF Bay Area) RR from 1957 until UP choked on it .  I'd be very
>> surprised if SP bought any second hand and a little surprised if SP
>> ever leased any.  As the owner of the biggest fleet of '45s, many SP
>> machines went elsewhere, but . . .
>>
>> Despite its troubles in its final days, SP rarely (if ever) bought
>> second-hand power, although it may have leased some (from Helm?) 
>> during
>> power crises.
>>
>> Willing to be surprised, however.
>>
>> Pete Groom
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2005, at 6:16 AM, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org wrote:
>>
>>> The short answer is that a number of SD45s were sold to other
>>> railroads. The best source of data is Bob Bower's monumental work:
>>> "All Time Roster: N&W Diesels", sold thru The Commissary. In the
>>> meantime, here is a list of railroads that ran ex-N&W SD45s at one
>>> time or another: Wiscinsin Central, Montana Rail Link, Paducah &
>>> Louisville, National de Mexico, Springfield Terminal, Wheeling & Lake
>>> Erie, and Southern Pacific.  I may have missed one. In addition,
>>> several were in various lease fleets for awhile. Some of those
>>> assignments were via leases from equipment dealers.
>>>
>>> . . .
>>
>>> Bill McClure
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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