NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 18, Issue 17

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Regarding Military locos in the Norfolk area, I have not found any 
indication that they ever ventured off of the Military bases. Most 
interchange in the region was performed by the Norfolk and Portsmouth Belt 
Line Railroad or it's parent roads. I have seen Belt Line trains delivering 
cars to the Norfolk Naval Base in Portsmouth and a couple of other nearby 
bases.

Dave George
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> When I was assigned to the Ordnance Shops at Fort Jackson after Korea the 

> post had a 44 tonner used to move cars around the post. The Class I would 

> drop cars jsut inside the post and some of the engineer types would crank 

> it up and do the switching. If anything went wrong they would ask us 

> Ordnance types, heavy maintenance to fix it. That was hoot as we had no 

> manuals. We usually went to town and aske the SRR folks for help which 

> they did.

>    About ten years ago I had the opportunity to visit the Naval Ordnance 

> Depot near Camp Hill, PA. They had two Baldwin switchers and many 

> specialty cars, a number of which were heavy riveted construction, such 

> things as "ring cars" for moving gun turrets. Taking pictures was no 

> problem.   Cal Reynolds

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>> Subj:  Military locomotives

>>

>> While "never" may be too strong a term, it is generally unlikely that any 

>> of

>> the various military services' locomotives were ever used on mainline 

>> service

>> -- especially for any considerable distances.

>>

>> Almost all of the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy locomotives I ever saw were 

>> being

>> used within various bases and/or depots as switch engines.  I have seen 

>> such

>> locomotives at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, the Earle NJ Ammunition Depot and 

>> the

>> Yorktown, VA ammunition depot.  In the Norfolk, VA area, it is certainly 

>> likely

>> that from time to time a military locomotive moved cars from one base to

>> another because there are many facilities there.  I recall a cousin 

>> telling me that

>> the Marine Corps used to have fuel delivered to the Cherry Point Air 

>> Station

>> by tank car using a Navy loco.

>>

>> For MANY years, the U.S. Army had a Railway Training Center at Fort 

>> Eustis,

>> VA. That base was home for the Army's rather extensive railroad 

>> equipment, much

>> of which was actually used in Europe.  Fort Eustis also had a pretty

>> extensive "training railroad" with about three miles of track, sidings, 

>> bridges, etc.

>> where they could simulate operation of a real railroad.  Today, the Army

>> Transportation Museum is at Fort Eustis and exhibits a number of Army 

>> locomotives

>> and cars. (I was there in July of this year)

>>

>> The Air Force had at least one locomotive (a small switcher, but I forget

>> what type) at Carswell Air Force Base near Fort Worth.  It was used to 

>> move

>> passenger car "classrooms" around the sprawling base.

>>

>> Decades ago - probably before or during World War II -- the U.S. Coast 

>> Guard

>> had a steam loco (either an 0-4-0 or 0-6-0 - tank engine) at either the 

>> CG

>> Yard in Baltimore or at the CG Base in Boston (I've heard both "stories" 

>> and

>> could never confirm which) I had only seen one partial photo of it.

>>

>> Hope this helps.

>>

>> Herb Kern

>> Mobile, AL

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