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Even when living in VA I was not sure why there was the statement that VA is
the only state with independent cities. Perhaps the practice is more
prevalent there, perhaps applying to smaller municipalities, but Baltimore,
MD is an independent city. MD has other cities, Annapolis for example, which
are not independent from the county. MD also has towns similar to VA towns
which are still a part of the county.
 
It is not the place on this list to continue this discussion, but I would be
interested in hearing additional discussion if anyone can shed light on this
claim.
 
Thanks
 

Craig Close 
Balimer, Merlan 
OK: Far West Catonsville 
OR: Greater Oella 

 

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Subject: Re: Boaz Siding



For the sake of history.......this separation of towns from counties within
Virginia goes back to the Commonwealth's English heritage.    I always
remember a sign near my home when I lived in Narrows that read, "Leaving
Narrows - entering Giles County".  Virginia, as Sam said is the only state
that does it this way.

Ed Painter Narrows, VA - Currently Russellville, AR

 
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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Boaz Siding

Actually, everyone is more or less right.  The soccer fields do belong to
Roanoke County; however they are located within the city limits of Roanoke.
A similar situation exists in the Cave Spring area where Hidden Valley
Junior High School, which my son attended, is located within the Roanoke
city limits but is part of Roanoke County's school system.  I know about the
soccer fields because my son participated in Roanoke County rec league games
there.  This is a situation that is peculiar to Virginia because it is the
only state where cities are totally independent from counties and expansion
of city boundaries by annexation (which hasn't been permitted for a couple
of decades) could surround facilities and infrastructure that counties
weren't willing to give up.  Deals were cut whereby counties, like any other
entity, could retain ownership if not governance.
 
Sam Putney
  

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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Boaz Siding

Gordon and Harry,

You guys are right and I was wrong. 

The City and Vinton are interleaved through that part of town. On her way to
work, my wife goes from the County, to the City, to the Town of Vinton, then
back into the City! It's crazy!

I've always thought the soccer fields near Boaz Siding were Roanoke County
fields, but I may be wrong. I suspect that east of Vinton, the City does not
reach south of the tracks. And as you said, where were the boundaries back
when? 

Ron Davis

At 10:10 PM 8/1/2007, you wrote:


Ron,
 
I don't know about that hand-drawn track plan that you attached or what the
City of Roanoke boundaries were in 1950, but a January 1, 1987, track chart
shows that going east from Vinton the railroad crosses from Vinton into the
City of Roanoke at about Mile Post N-254.8, passes Boaz (and Bridge 96) at
about Mile Post N-254.1 and crosses from the City of Roanoke into Roanoke
County at about Mile Post N-253.6, putting Boaz in the current boundaries of
the City of Roanoke.
 
Maybe the question is whether Boaz was or is in the City of Roanoke.
 
Gordon Hamilton



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