From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Mon Jul 6 10:26:14 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:26:14 -0400 Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris; It is highly unlikely that any employment records can be found. The N&WHS doesn't have any and the Federal Privacy Act keeps the railroads from releasing any. Most older records were discarded decades ago. At any rate, the information about what trains he ran and what locomotives he operated were never in employment files. For that you would need his personal time books where he would record what trains he operated and (likely) what locomotives he was using. Since the engineer was paid by the run, this info determined how much he was paid- weight of train and weight of locomotive being critical items. This info was in the crew registers but this was usually discarded after about 6 months. The Time book was the engineer's way to check what the company recorded and dispute any differences. These are little ledger books, pocket sized. If you are lucky your family will have them. The employee magazine probably does not have an article with him in it. However these were not indexed completely, so a page-by page search is likely required to find anything about him. Given that the first issue was written in June of 1923, it is mostly likely that no article was ever written about him. This sort of article would have been extremely rare in any case. In short it is going to be very, very difficult to construct his history as for the most part the company records never had any of his details of work. Think about what is in your employment files. Gary Rolih Secretary N&WHS _____ From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:31 PM To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines I am starting a detailed geneology record of my great-grandfater, and he was an engineer for the N&W. His name was James Cecil Neff. I am seeking information on how to search for his employment records, and some history on the lines and engines that he worked on. Also is there a way to find if he was the topic of any articles in the N&W magazine or any other of the companies documentation. He lived in Rural Retreat, Va, Kenova, WV, and Portsmouth, OH. I have some pass cards and engineer cards dated between 1905-1919. He died in 1921. He served at the Kenova sub-division during those times. His picture did appear in a N&W magazine in July 1953(page 392). I have two photographs that show the engine numbers he worked on. They were 1136 and 1447. Any information about him, his engines, or how to find this information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris Neff _____ Insert movie times and more without leaving HotmailR. See how. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Mon Jul 6 08:46:55 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:46:55 -0400 Subject: Who is going to the convention? References: <002801c9fd64$8c9fce50$0301a8c0@jim> <469C9B22572049EA88295AAB2B2549E9@nathanPC> Message-ID: I'll be there Wednesday-Sunday! EdKing ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: N&W Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Who is going to the convention? Who is going to make the pilgrimage to the Star City for the convention? I haven't been to a convention since the last time it was in Roanoke. 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Thanks go out to Roger Link and John Snidow for putting this together. Ron Davis From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 00:14:18 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:18 -0400 Subject: Who is going to the convention? In-Reply-To: References: <002801c9fd64$8c9fce50$0301a8c0@jim> <469C9B22572049EA88295AAB2B2549E9@nathanPC> Message-ID: Drove to Bristol from Arkansas on Fri. I was from Bristol to iager to Bluefield doing photography on Sat and Sun. I am at Hotel Roanoke as of last night through next Sat night for the Convention and I was on the Radford Division today and have the same plans for tomorrow to do photography. Unfortunately I must fly to Jackson, Ms for a 2 hr business meeting on Wed...but back later that evening. Best regards, Ed Painter From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:47 AM To: NW Mailing List Subject: Re: Who is going to the convention? I'll be there Wednesday-Sunday! EdKing ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: N&W Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Who is going to the convention? Who is going to make the pilgrimage to the Star City for the convention? I haven't been to a convention since the last time it was in Roanoke. Looking forward to it. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD ________________________________ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ ________________________________ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks go out to Roger Link > and John Snidow for putting this together. > > Ron Davis > > ________________________________________ > NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org > To change your subscription go to > http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list > Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at > http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 07:39:45 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 07:39:45 EDT Subject: Convention Message-ID: Is there any chance any of these slides can be put on the web for those of us who can not travel to the convention, thanks Ted Cutler. **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 08:33:11 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:33:11 -0400 Subject: July 8, 2009 Blue Ridge Chapter, NRHS N&W/VGN Program Message-ID: <4A534087.3070305@phys.vt.edu> Winston-Salem Chapter President Steve Hutchison asked me to pass this info on to the N&WHS members. Steve was the quest speaker at the N&WHS Convention that was held in Winston-Salem, NC. Anyone attending the N&WHS 2009 Roanoke Convention is invited to join us in Lynchburg, Va. for our monthly Blue Ridge Chapter, NRHS meeting on Wed. July 8, 2009. Log on to www.blueridgenrhs.org to get directions to Charley's Restaurant. Dine from 6:00 pm to 7:30 pm. Bus. meeting from 7:30 pm to 8:00 pm. Steve's show will start at 8:00 pm or a little before. Some of the N&WHS members may even be able to see Amtrak #19 "The Crescent" at Kemper Street Station around 10:00 pm. Anyone that would like to get more info is welcome to call me. My business phone number is 434-455-7421. I hope you have a great convention! Take care, Norris Deyerle National Director Blue Ridge Chapter, NRHS N&WHS Member -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norris, Here is the description for my July 8th. program. This will be a good way to "kick off" the NWHS Convention. Maybe you could spread the word and some of the early arrivals might attend your chapter meeting. "N&W/Virginian Vintage Slides" presented by Steve Hutchison. In the 1980's Al Chione offered hundreds of slide sets for sale. If you were on the mailing list, a multi-page hand written description of every slide in that month's offering would show up in the mail. I bought all I could afford at the time but not nearly as many as I wanted. The N&W slides are from the Bill Price Collection and the Virginian slides are from the Dave Sweetland Collection. All are from the 1950's and early 1960's. They are all good quality and cover a variety of locations. I will also throw in some other odds and ends to keep it interesting. Here are a couple of photos that you can run in your newsletter. See you soon. Steve photo 1 N&W K2a 4-8-2 #135 is leaving Winston-Salem Union Station northbound for Roanoke circa 1956. photo 2 Virginian PA 4-6-2 #212 is on display at Roanoke in September 1957 for the NRHS Convention. Both photos by Dr. Herbert Z. Lund from the collection of Mr. John Lund. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0049922-R1-E005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 44237 bytes Desc: not available Url : -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0049922-R1-E006.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 37321 bytes Desc: not available Url : -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 09:20:11 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:20:11 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines Message-ID: <17911495.1246972811027.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 10:26:36 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:26:36 -0400 Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines In-Reply-To: <17911495.1246972811027.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <17911495.1246972811027.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <87C09E12-2B3D-44EF-9818-7338FE3A66B2@rev.net> Unfortunately, pretty much the same answer. I'd suspect most of the older union records would have gone the way of the trash after they were of any use to the union. With the privacy act that Gary mentioned, everyone is under the same general rules. I know a bunch of N&W employee records were tossed in the 1970s. Luckily for me, one of the people doing the tossing recognized my father's father name on a file, and knew my father, and asked if he wanted the file before it was tossed. That was lucky, as my grandfather had lost a leg about 1909, and was last employed as a Crossing Watchman in the 1930s before passing away in 1943. So his record was closed for at least 30 years when it was to be tossed. I strongly suspect local union records are deleted fairly quickly due to lack of storage spaces, as most of the union offices are rented space, and primarily small. One inquiry rail historians always seem to get is "my (insert relative here) worked for the railroad, can you tell me anything about his service?" It is rare anyone can provide an answer of much value on the question, unless by some tiny chance they had a mention in the N&W magazine, or a seniority list. For years, the N&W Magazine published "The Innumerable Caravan" which was a list of employees or former employees who had passed away in recent months, these listings usually included an address, their last job and the date of passing. As Gary also said, the only hope might be some paperwork your family may have. For union stuff, a pay stub might list a member number, union card, correspondence might offer some clues. You are very lucky when you have a time book for a trainman, however, more often than not, I've discovered that many of them did not keep as detailed notes, engine numbers, cars as we'd like. My father, again, was a record keeper, I have all his timebooks from date of hire in 1948 to retirement in 1981. He kept amazingly detailed notes about engine numbers, engineer name, conductor name, number of cars, loads or empties. He even noted in the steam era when a canteen was used. Many others I've seen have only a date and time, and precious little else. I've got some from the Shenandoah Division from the 1920s that a jewels of detail, except it was when the locomotives were assigned, so it was virtually the same locomotive day in and day out. Good luck Ken Miller On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:20 AM, NW Mailing List wrote: > I've got a similar question, which will probably result in a > similar answer, but I'll ask it anyway. > I have an old Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen identification disk > with a member number engraved on the back and want to find out if > it belonged to my father, grandfather, or great grandfather. They > all worked for the N&W out of Petersburg, Virginia. I made an > inquiry to the United Transportation Union, but never received a > response. I've searched the internet and cannot find any > information about Virginia BRT Lodges. I have no idea where the > BRT records would have gone after the merger with the UTU. Does > anyone have an idea where I might go to match that number with a name? > > R. W. Vaughan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: NW Mailing List > Sent: Jul 6, 2009 10:26 AM > To: 'NW Mailing List' > Subject: RE: seeking information on engineer and his engines > > Chris; It is highly unlikely that any employment records can be > found. The N&WHS doesn?t have any and the Federal Privacy Act > keeps the railroads from releasing any. Most older records were > discarded decades ago. At any rate, the information about what > trains he ran and what locomotives he operated were never in > employment files. For that you would need his personal time books > where he would record what trains he operated and (likely) what > locomotives he was using. Since the engineer was paid by the run, > this info determined how much he was paid- weight of train and > weight of locomotive being critical items. This info was in the > crew registers but this was usually discarded after about 6 > months. The Time book was the engineer?s way to check what the > company recorded and dispute any differences. These are little > ledger books, pocket sized. If you are lucky your family will have > them. > > > > The employee magazine probably does not have an article with him in > it. However these were not indexed completely, so a page-by page > search is likely required to find anything about him. Given that > the first issue was written in June of 1923, it is mostly likely > that no article was ever written about him. This sort of article > would have been extremely rare in any case. > > > > In short it is going to be very, very difficult to construct his > history as for the most part the company records never had any of > his details of work. Think about what is in your employment files. > > > > Gary Rolih > > Secretary N&WHS > > > > > > From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list- > bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:31 PM > To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org > Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines > > > > I am starting a detailed geneology record of my great-grandfater, > and he was an engineer for the N&W. His name was James Cecil > Neff. I am seeking information on how to search for his employment > records, and some history on the lines and engines that he worked > on. Also is there a way to find if he was the topic of any > articles in the N&W magazine or any other of the companies > documentation. He lived in Rural Retreat, Va, Kenova, WV, and > Portsmouth, OH. I have some pass cards and engineer cards dated > between 1905-1919. He died in 1921. He served at the Kenova sub- > division during those times. > > His picture did appear in a N&W magazine in July 1953(page 392). > I have two photographs that show the engine numbers he worked on. > They were 1136 and 1447. > > Any information about him, his engines, or how to find this > information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Chris Neff > > > > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. > > ________________________________________ > NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org > To change your subscription go to > http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list > Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at > http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 10:17:38 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:17:38 +0100 Subject: Railway/Railroad Company Records In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A535902.2030103@ieee.org> More a comment prompted by the exchanges on 'seeking information on engineer and his engines' in connection with what records may be kept in various jurisdictions. UK National Archives hold limited information, and this, and also other sources, is detailed as follows http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=124&j=1 Many companies anway, and railway companies, deposited material with the local county record office and archives ..... these may include salary registers, staff registers and personnel records. Other possible research sources include http://www.scan.org.uk/researchrtools/railway.htm for Scotland. Most post WWII records will have been kept within the rail industry (the nationalised transport industry including the railways as part of the British Transport Commission and then the British Railways Board ........ and may still be in successor company archives. From the National Railway Museum York: The best place to start is to look at a specialist book or join a specialist society. Was Your Grandfather a Railwayman? by Tom Richards (4th edition, FFHS, 2002) provides a useful general guide to the records and where they are kept. Railway Records: A Guide to Sources by Cliff Edwards (PRO, 2001) is particularly helpful regarding records at the National Archives and how they can be used. The Railway Ancestors Family History Society includes people with experience of searching for railway ancestors and might be the best source of practical guidance, especially when you have got stuck. http://www.nrm.org.uk/research/railwayrelatives.asp Is there anything similar in the U.S? I also recall, from someone else on the list, inquiries about railwaymen serving in the armed forces during WWII and presumably WWI, and there were sources from the military that might help, especially those who would have served in the TRansportation Corps. I'll see if I can find what I researched then. I noted on a search that some archive is kept of the Lehigh Valley - http://rmc.library.cornell.edu/EAD/htmldocs/RMM03362.html - and associated companies, tho' not directly it seems of personnel. And also see A Guide to the Records of the Eureka-Nevada Railway Company Collection No. NC02 http://www.knowledgecenter.unr.edu/specoll/mss/NC02.html State archives may be a possibility worth consulting e.g. http://www.nj.gov/state/darm/links/webcat/queries/prailroa.html and http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/msscfa/sc14069.htm And see http://railroads.uconn.edu/links.htm U.S. Railroad Retirement Board and Genealogical Information after 1936: http://www.rrb.gov/mep/genealogy.asp I hope these might be helpful. Dominic London NW Mailing List wrote: > > Chris; It is highly unlikely that any employment records can be found. > The N&WHS doesn?t have any and the Federal Privacy Act keeps the > railroads from releasing any. Most older records were discarded > decades ago. At any rate, the information about what trains he ran and > what locomotives he operated were never in employment files. For that > you would need his personal time books where he would record what > trains he operated and (likely) what locomotives he was using. Since > the engineer was paid by the run, this info determined how much he was > paid- weight of train and weight of locomotive being critical items. > This info was in the crew registers but this was usually discarded > after about 6 months. The Time book was the engineer?s way to check > what the company recorded and dispute any differences. These are > little ledger books, pocket sized. If you are lucky your family will > have them. > -- Please help me support the Pirate Castle at http://www.justgiving.com/dominicpinto From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 11:35:19 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:35:19 -0400 Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you very much for your time and response. I guess it is disappointing, but understand that looking for records that are nearly 100 years old, is questionable, whether they even have survived or still exist. Chris Neff To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: seeking information on engineer and his engines Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:26:14 -0400 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Chris; It is highly unlikely that any employment records can be found. The N&WHS doesn?t have any and the Federal Privacy Act keeps the railroads from releasing any. Most older records were discarded decades ago. At any rate, the information about what trains he ran and what locomotives he operated were never in employment files. For that you would need his personal time books where he would record what trains he operated and (likely) what locomotives he was using. Since the engineer was paid by the run, this info determined how much he was paid- weight of train and weight of locomotive being critical items. This info was in the crew registers but this was usually discarded after about 6 months. The Time book was the engineer?s way to check what the company recorded and dispute any differences. These are little ledger books, pocket sized. If you are lucky your family will have them. The employee magazine probably does not have an article with him in it. However these were not indexed completely, so a page-by page search is likely required to find anything about him. Given that the first issue was written in June of 1923, it is mostly likely that no article was ever written about him. This sort of article would have been extremely rare in any case. In short it is going to be very, very difficult to construct his history as for the most part the company records never had any of his details of work. Think about what is in your employment files. Gary Rolih Secretary N&WHS From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:31 PM To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Subject: seeking information on engineer and his engines I am starting a detailed geneology record of my great-grandfater, and he was an engineer for the N&W. His name was James Cecil Neff. I am seeking information on how to search for his employment records, and some history on the lines and engines that he worked on. Also is there a way to find if he was the topic of any articles in the N&W magazine or any other of the companies documentation. He lived in Rural Retreat, Va, Kenova, WV, and Portsmouth, OH. I have some pass cards and engineer cards dated between 1905-1919. He died in 1921. He served at the Kenova sub-division during those times. His picture did appear in a N&W magazine in July 1953(page 392). I have two photographs that show the engine numbers he worked on. They were 1136 and 1447. Any information about him, his engines, or how to find this information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris Neff Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 12:30:43 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:30:43 -0400 Subject: Who is going to the convention? In-Reply-To: References: <002801c9fd64$8c9fce50$0301a8c0@jim> <469C9B22572049EA88295AAB2B2549E9@nathanPC> Message-ID: Iaeger (Spelled correctly) It's a good thing I don't depend on my clerical skills to make a living! Ed Painter - From Narrows, VA and as I write this note, at Narrows beside the N&W at Stockpen waiting on a train. (another slow morning) From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:14 PM To: 'NW Mailing List' Subject: RE: Who is going to the convention? Drove to Bristol from Arkansas on Fri. I was from Bristol to iager to Bluefield doing photography on Sat and Sun. I am at Hotel Roanoke as of last night through next Sat night for the Convention and I was on the Radford Division today and have the same plans for tomorrow to do photography. Unfortunately I must fly to Jackson, Ms for a 2 hr business meeting on Wed...but back later that evening. Best regards, Ed Painter From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:47 AM To: NW Mailing List Subject: Re: Who is going to the convention? I'll be there Wednesday-Sunday! EdKing ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: N&W Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Who is going to the convention? Who is going to make the pilgrimage to the Star City for the convention? I haven't been to a convention since the last time it was in Roanoke. Looking forward to it. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD ________________________________ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ ________________________________ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 13:40:22 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:40:22 -0400 Subject: Employee records, UTU records and more Message-ID: <540e48700907071040v485b531cy3800e5e991f6166c@mail.gmail.com> Regarding the UTU and all the mergers ... I have called them on old records as their offices are about 4 miles away from where I live but getting a phone number and actually talking to a real live person and not a recording was NOT E Z, let me tell you. The person I spoke with who I think is one of the higher ups in the UTU sounded a smidge interested but wasn't all enthusiastic in any way shape or form. In addition, tried to enter their building and I suspect you could get into some CIA or NSA offices easier than getting in this one but at least I have the idea to visit on my burner, somewhere .... Here are a few ideas for tracking something down for relatives or someone you desire to know more about and I wish you luck. 1) not just N&W employee magazines but various brotherhood magazines. That was the UTU angle I was chasing for the Telegrapher Magazines when the O.R.T. was independent many, many years ago. Try the BRT employee magazines, if you can find them. 2) RRB -- Railroad Retirement Board records 3) The RR themselves, especially if the person drew a pension from the RR These are a couple on a short list but you never know what might sprout from an idea. Within the various railroads, their own retirement systems might have something as well. However as already suggested, after a certain period of time, many things get tossed. The B&O RR Museum has many employee records which they will print out a copy for someone, on request and for a fee. The cost holds whether they find anything or not and like so many, you never know what you'll find and what level of detail the records will have. Some may have several pages and other just basic dates of service and any good deeds or not so good things which got written up may be on them. Good luck. Feel free to contact me off-list and we can go into other details if you like. Bob Cohen ORL96782 at yahoo.com On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:20 AM, NW Mailing List wrote: > I've got a similar question, which will probably result in a > similar answer, but I'll ask it anyway. > I have an old Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen identification disk > with a member number engraved on the back and want to find out if > it belonged to my father, grandfather, or great grandfather. They > all worked for the N&W out of Petersburg, Virginia. I made an > inquiry to the United Transportation Union, but never received a > response. I've searched the internet and cannot find any > information about Virginia BRT Lodges. I have no idea where the > BRT records would have gone after the merger with the UTU. Does > anyone have an idea where I might go to match that number with a name? > > R. W. Vaughan From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 17:49:14 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:49:14 -0400 Subject: Who is going to the convention? References: <002801c9fd64$8c9fce50$0301a8c0@jim><469C9B22572049EA88295AAB2B2549E9@nathanPC> Message-ID: Ed What a bummer you will miss the OCS and the Fs on Wednesday. See you Friday Larry Evans Kenova, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: 'NW Mailing List' Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:14 AM Subject: RE: Who is going to the convention? Drove to Bristol from Arkansas on Fri. I was from Bristol to iager to Bluefield doing photography on Sat and Sun. I am at Hotel Roanoke as of last night through next Sat night for the Convention and I was on the Radford Division today and have the same plans for tomorrow to do photography. Unfortunately I must fly to Jackson, Ms for a 2 hr business meeting on Wed.but back later that evening. Best regards, Ed Painter From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:47 AM To: NW Mailing List Subject: Re: Who is going to the convention? I'll be there Wednesday-Sunday! EdKing ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: N&W Mailing List Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Who is going to the convention? Who is going to make the pilgrimage to the Star City for the convention? I haven't been to a convention since the last time it was in Roanoke. Looking forward to it. 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NWHS ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Tue Jul 7 22:23:32 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:23:32 -0400 Subject: engineers records Message-ID: <8CBCD8A3929A820-578-1AED@WEBMAIL-MZ23.sysops.aol.com> if the gentleman thats looking for engineer records will contact me-nappygla at aol.com, iwill help him. i have my uncle, r.s. jackson, rad .div engneer, timebooks 1918-1921,1942-1968. lee alley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Wed Jul 8 00:05:17 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:05:17 -0400 Subject: Train Ride for a Cure Message-ID: <7DF8E903E10F4834BC520F975C9A6471@MillsPC> As many of you know my wife Patty is undergoing her sixth bout with Cancer. She is an avid rail traveler and has worked with many rail events in the mid-Ohio Valley. A scenic railroad is sponsoring a Ride for the cure with all proceeds going to the American Cancer Society. This is being run this August. If possible I ask that you consider attending this event. The fact that a scenic railroad is doing this may blind my site a little because Patty and I do love train travel so much. That aside, I am praying that a cure for all forms of Cancer will come someday even if it will not be in time for my wife. NO ONE deserves to go through the hell that she has gone through and is now again going through. I am posting the information on this event below for your view and hope that if you can't attend you will consider donating to this cause. I realize the calls on your purse are heavy as they are on each of us. It is a call that I make on you that I would never do unless I believed that all things are possible with God. The folks at the Hocking Valley Scenic Railroad in Nelsonville are hosting a Ride for a Cure on Saturday August 22, at 6:30 PM. General Admission is $12. and covers a ride of the entire line. For reservations or additional information call: 1-800-967-7834 or in Ohio: 740-753-9531 or use their website www.hockingvalleytrain.com The Hocking Valley Scenic is the former C&O line running out of Columbus to Nelsonville, O. This line was part of the Hocking Valley Railroad which was purchased by the C&O railroad in the 1920's ( I think) Thanks or reading and any consideration is appreciated by me. 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Who is going to make the pilgrimage to the Star City for the convention? I haven't been to a convention since the last time it was in Roanoke. Looking forward to it. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Wed Jul 8 04:38:17 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:38:17 -0400 Subject: For Diesel Spotters References: Message-ID: Looks like one of the first slugs with an operating cab is in Roanoke. Look for #705. Jimmy Lisle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221917659x1201411421/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.media plex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D2) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Wed Jul 8 09:57:40 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:57:40 -0400 Subject: NWHS Convention Safety Reminder Message-ID: The shops and other surrounding areas are industrial work areas. Long pants would be the proper clothing to wear. Ed Painter -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld ________________________________ From: nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org To: NW Mailing List Sent: Wed Jul 08 07:41:09 2009 Subject: Re: NWHS Convention Safety Reminder Long pants would be the better choice. There will be some work going on in the shop that day. Ron Davis At 08:46 PM 7/7/2009, you wrote: Are shorts ok, or should we wear long pants for the shop tour? 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The station will likewise be open between 10 AM and 4 PM on Sunday, July 12, for conventioneers heading home via Interstate 81, seven miles from exit 313. Hope to see a few more friendly faces stop by! Have a great convention, Frank Scheer f_scheer at yahoo.com From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Thu Jul 9 12:59:01 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:59:01 -0400 Subject: "Taking Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren Message-ID: <4A5621D5.5010501@phys.vt.edu> Last night I had the pleasure of "Takin' Twenty" with eight of the Brethren and Friends of the Virginian Railway. We signed a Happy Birthday card for James Economy, who turned 80 on Monday, and a Sympathy Card for William "Scotty" Scott, who lost his beloved wife Shirley, last week to cancer. We were joined my Mr. and Mrs. Gilmer. Mrs. Gilmer's father was VGN road brakeman O. C. Hancock. Ruf Wingfield told several stories about "calling" O. C. and his VGN crews. Passed around were the Spring 2009 NRHS "Bulletin" and a Dave Hyman photo of thermite rail joint welding on the NS at Alliance, OH. I asked the Brethren if they ever saw anything like thermite joint welding on the VGN and I got a lot of feedback about them not having ribbon rail... Ruf told the Brethren about the recent passing away of Lanny "Bones" Bower, VGN Scale House Clerk. He was called "Bones" because he was "tall and skinny". I showed the Brethren a letter I found at the N&W (and VGN) Historical Society Archives this week from Virginian Chief Engineer A. M. Traugott dated December 7, 1945. It authorized the building of a 60 X 80 foot "Quonset" building at the Roanoke Terminal, but did not specify what the building use was. Ruf Wingfield and Wis Sowder remembered the building as being across the street from the VGN Passenger Station and was used by Sands and Company as a "Company Store". The N&W Historical Society Annual Convention is in Roanoke this week. I told the Brethren about a large aerial photo being shown at the Archives of the entire VGN South Yard Complex dated sometime in the 1950s. Except for dating the automobiles in the photo, it is hard to determine the exact date it was taken. I contacted Appalachian Power to find out when their power generating plant beside the Walnut Street Bridge in the photo was taken out of service. They gave me a January 1, 1955 date indicating that the photo was taken before that date. The N&WHS Convention is highlighting several aspects of the VGN. John Munson is giving a clinic "The Mullins Motor Barn complex except for the Motor Barn"; Frank Bongiovanni is presenting "Introduction to Virginian Modeling" and there will be a "Presentation of Don Ball slides of N&W/VGN subjects". Last week I made a "typo" when reporting Landon Gregory's comments about VGN telegraph and telephone operations. The reference to telephone should have been "FN". Landon also remembered that VGN locations had call letters. Victoria was "CD"; Altavista "VA"; Roanoke "JK"; Goodview "CH"; Moneta "MA"; Huddleston "C"; Seneca "CA"; Brookneal "BR"; Phenix "F"; Abilene "AN"; Kenbridge "GN"; Jarrett "JR"; Suffolk "SW"; Alberta "A"; South Norfolk "MO" and Sewalls Point was "SK". He also said that there were six different telegraph circuits and on VGN signal poles, the white insulators indicated dispatch lines. I showed the Brethren two of the latest VGN books now available from the N&WHS Commissary: Standards Drawings Book "G" "Telegraph & Telephone Lines" (Volume 24) and Book "H" "Miscellaneous" (Volume 25). The "Miscellaneous" book includes Standard Mail Cranes, Telephone Boxes, Bill and Fire Hose Boxes, Stockyards, Rail Tongs, Signal Lamps, Inspector's Hammer, Push Cars, and a Standard Box for Storing Dynamite. Also passed around was a recent ebay purchase I made of two photos showing several VGN G4 Gons in disarray beside the Lafayette bridge just west of Kumis siding. These two photos of a 1940 VGN derailment may be good candidates for Aubrey Wiley's outstanding black and white Virginian Railway Calendar... Glen McLain and Wis Sowder discussed ways to keep deer from eating the tops of plants in their gardens. This prompted a discussion about hunting. One of the Brethren recalled once going bear hunting with some of his VGN friends. They came to a fork in the fire trail road and saw a sign that read "BEAR LEFT" so they went home... Time to pull the pin on this one! Departing Now from VGN 248, Skip Salmon ============= From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Fri Jul 10 20:42:06 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:42:06 -0400 Subject: For Diesel Spotters References: Message-ID: <79C621171A3C41FFABF0EC6936289C53@susan> Jimmy, Pretty sure I saw it today, moving east (EBRT) by the hump. I didn't really know what it was at the time (I saw it from a distance), but remember the number, because it was unusual (a 3 digit number on a new unit). Thanks, Jeff Sanders ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Mailing List To: NW Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:38 AM Subject: For Diesel Spotters Looks like one of the first slugs with an operating cab is in Roanoke. Look for #705. Jimmy Lisle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________________ NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sat Jul 11 02:11:20 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Just like Virginian train order signals... Message-ID: <724224.80561.qm@web30104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> These pictures of eBay item 400056670459 depict a train order signal from the B&M. However, the Virginian used the same style: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400056670459&viewitem=&salenotsupported Were wall levers used in VGN stations, or was a table-top style used? I don't have an interest in these, but if there's someone who is that has a pair of N&W train order signals they want to swap for them, I'd be willing to pursue buying these and negotiating a trade with delivery. I'm seeking N&W train order signals or floor levers for Boyce station. Please contact me off-list. Best wishes, Frank Scheer f_scheer at yahoo.com From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jul 12 20:53:52 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:53:52 -0400 Subject: CONVENTION MEMORIES In-Reply-To: <20090707022347.WSDQ14338.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> References: <375152089.954213.1246929902378.JavaMail.root@vms232.mailsrvcs.net> <20090707022347.WSDQ14338.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> Message-ID: <8CBD16B86AF1B4C-D88-522D@Webmail-mg16.sim.aol.com> Hope all of you enjoyed Roanoke as much as I did. Thanks to all of those who continue staging our 'annual' at such a high level. I skipped the tours; have done them on previous visits. Instead focused on my own interests; track arrangements, bridges, some structures. Went to Wabun/Singer for another close look at the ex-VGN skewed truss bridge. Didn't get close; much more overgrowth now than 5 years ago made it risky.. Enjoyed meeting Tom Dixon; liked his comment that modelers are by nature the core of historic preservation. Brings a couple of NWHS members to mind. Struggled with northbound I-81 traffic on the way home. Must have been liberals on their way to D.C.: limping along in the left lane; holding everything else up; ignoring the majority. Jerome Crosson From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jul 12 21:15:08 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Peavine Pieces #2 Message-ID: <19987139.1247447708887.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> While prowling through the N&W Annual Reports CD I noticed two things. AR #19 1915: Shelter sheds were erected at several locations around the system, cities were listed, including Beaver Pond, which is the one that I am interested in. AR #6 1902: The station at Arion was converted to a shelter shed and moved to the north side of the tracks. My question is, are there any photos or drawings of the shelter sheds? I am modeling in N-scale the old line and new line between Rarden, Ohio and the rock quarry at Plum run where the two lines split. I would like to build one of theses structures at the Beaver Pond location if any info is available. Thanks for any info sent forward. Jeffrey Wood N&W VGN Hist. Soc. Southern Ohio Railway Enthusiast ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org Sun Jul 12 20:50:31 2009 From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:50:31 -0400 Subject: Convention 2009 Message-ID: <79F4E4BC21D1467A8A87E18A5E2A123F@nathanPC> Hey everyone we are home and had a super time at thed Convention in Roanoke,it was great seeing all and getting to ride behind those N& W engines were great.The people of Hotel Roanoke , the VMT and the NRHS Roanoke Chapter with the GP 30 and the T 6, I think the bus driver had a great time with all of us and seeing the J and the A in the museum was very good , I hope everyone else had as good of time as we did Oh by the way when we came up I-77 below Bluefield where the bridge span the highway we finally saw a train coming west toward Bluefield The visit at the archives was great and we got plenty of Help Looking forward to seeing all next year in Front Royal Nathan and David Robinette Pomeroy,OHIO Hope all made it home safely -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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