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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:03:32 -0500
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
Message-ID: <B3ADEDCE02134E2BA475A077577852D2@Gene>

I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va. State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in tact??
Thanks:
Gene A.
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 10:58:38 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:58:38 -0500
Subject: Is there enough info to do a book about the Ms?
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Mason Stephen has done several on the Creeper. I have a signed print of 
"Virginia Creeper at Stikes Hollar".  Its a winter scene. He agreed with me 
that he took a bit of license, but its a good rendition of a double headed 
Creeper.  Cal Reynolds.
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> Mason:
>
> I'm sure the artist, Stephen Shoemaker, would be happy to speak to someone
> form the society re: marketing his prints through the Commissary.  There 
> are
> 8 now various places in Ashe County or just over the line in Va. Stephen 
> al
> has completed a mural in Downtown West Jefferson.  You can go here
> http://www.ashecountyarts.org/publicart.htm and scroll down the page to 
> see
> this work.
>
> R.D. Williams
>
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>
>
> Would be authors should submit their preliminary manuscript to our
> Publications Chairman. I have always found that working with the NWHS has
> always bettered the topics I was working on. There is a wealth of material
> in the Archives, which I believe Bud Jefferies and Ed King have also
> discovered.
>
> ...And those 4-8-0 prints might be an item for consideration for the
> Commissary.
>
> Mason Cooper
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 12:10:56 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:10:56 +0000
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
In-Reply-To: <B3ADEDCE02134E2BA475A077577852D2@Gene>
References: <B3ADEDCE02134E2BA475A077577852D2@Gene>
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NW Mailing List wrote:
> I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a 
> Va. State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden 
> bridges still in tact??
> Thanks:
> Gene A.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

There's a guide to the trail at http://www.vacreepertrail.com/ and the 
photo gallery includes 
bridges.http://www.vacreepertrail.us/trestles.html Whether these are 
original, part-re-built or re-built I don't know. My only visits have 
been by acr and quite brief - so far. I hope to have a more leisurely 
visit one of these years ......

See also http://www.vacreepertrail.org/index.html



Dominic
London

-- 
Please help me support the Pirate Castle at
http://www.justgiving.com/dominicpinto


From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 12:43:33 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:43:33 -0500
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
In-Reply-To: <B3ADEDCE02134E2BA475A077577852D2@Gene>
References: <B3ADEDCE02134E2BA475A077577852D2@Gene>
Message-ID: <19918F912C994EB89A38B4605D713C80@ashememorial.org>

The Va. Creeper trial runs form Abingdon Va. to White Top Va. And is used as
a walking and bicycle trail.

 

Go here http://www.vacreepertrail.us/ for some current information.

 

  _____  

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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges

 

I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va.
State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in
tact??

Thanks:

Gene A.

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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 13:01:05 2010
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:01:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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References: <B3ADEDCE02134E2BA475A077577852D2@Gene>
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Yes to both questions. Many of the trestles are intact.     




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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges

 
I have heard that some of the Va. 
Creeper route has been turned into a Va. State park walk way. Is that true and 
are any of the wooden bridges still in tact??
Thanks:
Gene A.
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 16:32:19 2010
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:32:19 -0500
Subject: NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 52, Issue 14
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Have you tried to sell them?  I'm sure our society would enjoy having any
proceeds that are generated.  What are the dates of the magazines to be
discarded?

Bill Smith
Atlanta  

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Subject: Roanoke HELP needed!
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Hello, everyone -

I came down to Roanoke this weekend attend my first Archives meeting in many
months. (Too many.) I helped to generate some shelf space by purging surplus
copies of MR and Trains. The surplus is all stacked up here ready to go to
the recycling center.  Trouble is, it's stuck on the dock!

 I see that Roanoke collects paper materials every other week, but since the
Society is not a residence (and since Bob B and Ron D are not city
residents, we don't know what to do!

So here is my appeal to some of you vigilant recyclers out there:
please come and pick this stuff up. I'd haul it back to Pittsburgh, but my
car ain't big enough!

Marty Swartz, marty.swartz at gmail.com

--
Eighty percent of success is showing up. - Woody Allen




From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 17:19:16 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:19:16 EST
Subject: NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 52, Issue 14
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In a message dated 01/11/10 5:00:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

Have you  tried to sell them?


They are the society's. There is no real market for selling them  any more. 
There will not be any lists but if anyone wants them, they are free.  Come 
and get them.
 
Bob Bowers
N&WHS Sales
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 17:25:45 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:25:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Old Magazines
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The best information we have at present is that recent Trains and MR (e.g., 1960 to present) are virtually impossible to sell, and in most cases cannot be given free to dealers in old magazines (personal experience on this). Most of the magazines fall in this category.  There just isn't any demand, except for the really old stuff.  We have a list of what we need for the archives library, and only three magazines fell into this group out of several cartons sorted by the time I closed up shop Sat. evening.

Dave Stephenson

--- On Mon, 1/11/10, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: RE: NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 52, Issue 14
> To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
> Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 4:32 PM
> Have you tried to sell them??
> I'm sure our society would enjoy having any
> proceeds that are generated.? What are the dates of
> the magazines to be
> discarded?
> 
> Bill Smith
> Atlanta? 
> 



      

From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 18:16:25 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:16:25 -0500
Subject: Clinch Valley District  Passenger Trains 11 and 12
Message-ID: <D616E43A8FB2704C89EF46A425F9BD2202242B12@orlex03.firm.lddkr.com>

The 1930 N&W Employees Timetable shows that passenger train #11 ran
westbound from Bluefield to Norton and train #12 ran eastbound. The 1934
Employees Timetable does not show those trains. When were trains #11 and
#12  discontinued ? What type of locomotive and passenger equipment did
it use ?  Does anyone have photos of these trains ?


Thanks in advance.


Paul Mandelkern
Winter Park, FL
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Mon Jan 11 21:33:32 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:33:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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and some of those trestles are still intact in NC too. I know I had seen about 3 on my Fedex Home Delivery route a few years ago. one is a driveway to a house now.

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From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 6:01 PM






Yes to both questions. Many of the trestles are intact. ? ? 





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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges




I?have heard?that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va. State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in tact??
Thanks:
Gene A.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:27:10 -0500
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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Wow, do you have any pictures you can post?
_________________________________
Mike Weeks, LCSW, LCAS
M1, Brody School of Medicine 2013
MSW, UNC at Charlotte 2003
BS Acct, UNC at Charlotte 1989
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and some of those trestles are still intact in NC too. I know I had seen about 3 on my Fedex Home Delivery route a few years ago. one is a driveway to a house now.

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From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 6:01 PM

Yes to both questions. Many of the trestles are intact.

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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges

I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va. State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in tact??
Thanks:
Gene A.

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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Tue Jan 12 16:32:57 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:32:57 -0500
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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Mike,

Does a wooden superstructure on steel girders fit your needs? This is the
curved bridge about 2 miles east of Damascus.

Mike Pierry, Jr.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, NW Mailing List
<nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>wrote:

> Wow, do you have any pictures you can post?
> _________________________________
> Mike Weeks, LCSW, LCAS
> M1, Brody School of Medicine 2013
> MSW, UNC at Charlotte 2003
> BS Acct, UNC at Charlotte 1989
> ________________________________________
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> On Behalf Of NW Mailing List [nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org]
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> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>
> and some of those trestles are still intact in NC too. I know I had seen
> about 3 on my Fedex Home Delivery route a few years ago. one is a driveway
> to a house now.
>
> --- On Mon, 1/11/10, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 6:01 PM
>
> Yes to both questions. Many of the trestles are intact.
>
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> Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>
> I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va.
> State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in
> tact??
> Thanks:
> Gene A.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:54:28 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Jumping car wheels
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 5, 1910

TRAIN'S ACROBATIC FEAT
------
Considerable Story of Jumping Car Wheels Comes From the Scioto Division
    The Ironton Register says that Norfolk and Western freight train No. 84 narrowly avoided a wreck at the railroad crossing at Front and Center streets.  A heavy east bound train was passing over the crossing at about ten o'clock when a brake beam and shoe fell from one of the cars and got fastened in the frog of the Norfolk and Western and Detroit, Toledo and Ironton tracks.
    Several cars passed over the obstruction but hitting it, the trucks of each car jumped up from the rails, but fortunately alighted on the rails again instead of becoming derailed.  Several bystanders saw the incident and report it was very strange that none of the cars left the track.
    The train never stopped, the trainmen not being aware of the mishap until the end of the train had passed over the obstruction.
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[They were also lucky that none of the cast iron wheels of the era shattered from the impacts.]

Gordon Hamilton
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Tue Jan 12 19:48:59 2010
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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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Very nice. Thanks for post that.
_________________________________
Mike Weeks, LCSW, LCAS
M1, Brody School of Medicine 2013
MSW, UNC at Charlotte 2003
BS Acct, UNC at Charlotte 1989
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Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges

Mike,

Does a wooden superstructure on steel girders fit your needs? This is the curved bridge about 2 miles east of Damascus.

Mike Pierry, Jr.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
Wow, do you have any pictures you can post?
_________________________________
Mike Weeks, LCSW, LCAS
M1, Brody School of Medicine 2013
MSW, UNC at Charlotte 2003
BS Acct, UNC at Charlotte 1989
________________________________________
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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges

and some of those trestles are still intact in NC too. I know I had seen about 3 on my Fedex Home Delivery route a few years ago. one is a driveway to a house now.

--- On Mon, 1/11/10, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:

From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>
Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 6:01 PM

Yes to both questions. Many of the trestles are intact.

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Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 9:03:32 AM
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges

I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va. State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in tact??
Thanks:
Gene A.

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:18:16 -0500
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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Nice photo. Clearly shows that a 'curved' plate girder bridge consists of multiple straight girder sections supporting a curved deck.? View from below would be enlightening, too.
?
Jerome Crosson.




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Mike,

Does a wooden superstructure on steel girders fit your needs? This is the curved bridge about 2 miles east of Damascus.


Mike Pierry, Jr.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM, NW Mailing List &lt;nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org&gt; wrote:
Wow, do you have any pictures you can post?
_________________________________
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and some of those trestles are still intact in NC too. I know I had seen about 3 on my Fedex Home Delivery route a few years ago. one is a driveway to a house now.

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Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 6:01 PM

Yes to both questions. Many of the trestles are intact.

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I have heard that some of the Va. Creeper route has been turned into a Va. State park walk way. Is that true and are any of the wooden bridges still in tact??
Thanks:
Gene A.

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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
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In October 2004 I walked a segment of the Virginia Creeper Trail from a 
point a few miles west of Damascus to Green Cove. It never occurred to 
me to take photos of the bridges though I did get a couple. You can see 
a few of my pictures along the trail at...

http://gallery.me.com/hyltonbg#100398

###
Bernie Hylton

"Let it snow...let it snow...let it snow!"


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Beautiful pictures!  Although I rode the Abingdon branch in diesel days, I 
do not remember any prettier scenes.

Gordon Hamilton

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> In October 2004 I walked a segment of the Virginia Creeper Trail from a
> point a few miles west of Damascus to Green Cove. It never occurred to
> me to take photos of the bridges though I did get a couple. You can see
> a few of my pictures along the trail at...
>
> http://gallery.me.com/hyltonbg#100398
>
> ###
> Bernie Hylton
>
> "Let it snow...let it snow...let it snow!"
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:53:38 -0500
Subject: Ashe County Train
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The Ashe County Historical Society (NC) is beginning a project in 
their museum of a diorama of the NW train that ran through the county.
I would like to know the make up of the train that was running in the 
1920's and the cars. The line stopped at Todd (Elkland).

Thanks
Jerry Brown


From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Wed Jan 13 19:03:49 2010
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:03:49 -0500
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges, and track charts??
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Where would one obtain some track charts for this branch?? And while I am 
asking, how about track charts for the line from Ivanhoe VA, up to 
Speedwell, and Reed Jct up to Sylvatus VA??

Or are these made in that rare matarial called "un-obtainiam"?

Also, if you go to google maps, you can follow much of the line down into 
NC, you can see several trestles along the way.

Like these two, looks too be about half a mile inside North Carolina...

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.584128,-81.612448&spn=0.001637,0.005472&t=h&z=18

Andy J

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> Beautiful pictures!  Although I rode the Abingdon branch in diesel days, I 
> do not remember any prettier scenes.
>
> Gordon Hamilton
>
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> To: <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>
>
>> In October 2004 I walked a segment of the Virginia Creeper Trail from a
>> point a few miles west of Damascus to Green Cove. It never occurred to
>> me to take photos of the bridges though I did get a couple. You can see
>> a few of my pictures along the trail at...
>>
>> http://gallery.me.com/hyltonbg#100398
>>
>> ###
>> Bernie Hylton
>>
>> "Let it snow...let it snow...let it snow!"
>>
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Subject: Sad News from Bluefield
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It was reported in the Bluefield Daily Telegraph today that Dr. Stuart McGehee, archivist at the Eastern Regional Coal Archives, has passed away.  As some of you probably remember, Dr. McGehee spoke at our Bluefield Conventions in 1996 and 2007.  I had the pleasure of studying under Dr. McGehee for History 101 (Western Civ') at Bluefield College in the late 80's.  He transformed a potentially boring 800am class into something that was actually fun instead of being a "yawner".   His wit, enthusiasm and passion will be sorely missed.  Any of you guys wanting more details can see the article in the Online version of the Bluefield Daily Telegraph (www.bdtonline.com/).  I would expect funeral arrangements to be forthcoming there as well.

 

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Chris,

I am floored to learn of Dr. McGehee's death.  On several occasions I spent some hours in the Eastern Regional Coal Archives reviewing information that he supplied to me for my research into the streetcars that operated in Bluefield and Princeton. On other occasions when he might pass by while I was using the microfilm readers in the library downstairs from the archives he never failed to call me by name and ask how my research was doing.

I had repeatedly invited him to tour the N&WHS archives, but he was always too involved in other activities and never saw what historical treasurers we have there.

Gordon Hamilton
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  It was reported in the Bluefield Daily Telegraph today that Dr. Stuart McGehee, archivist at the Eastern Regional Coal Archives, has passed away.  As some of you probably remember, Dr. McGehee spoke at our Bluefield Conventions in 1996 and 2007.  I had the pleasure of studying under Dr. McGehee for History 101 (Western Civ') at Bluefield College in the late 80's.  He transformed a potentially boring 800am class into something that was actually fun instead of being a "yawner".   His wit, enthusiasm and passion will be sorely missed.  Any of you guys wanting more details can see the article in the Online version of the Bluefield Daily Telegraph (www.bdtonline.com/).  I would expect funeral arrangements to be forthcoming there as well.
   
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Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges, and track charts??
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Andy -

Volume three of Louis Newton's RAILS REMEMBERED should be able to answer 
your needs.  I believe it is still available through the Society.

EdKing
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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:03 PM
To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges, and track charts??

> Where would one obtain some track charts for this branch?? And while I am 
> asking, how about track charts for the line from Ivanhoe VA, up to 
> Speedwell, and Reed Jct up to Sylvatus VA??
>
> Or are these made in that rare matarial called "un-obtainiam"?
>
> Also, if you go to google maps, you can follow much of the line down into 
> NC, you can see several trestles along the way.
>
> Like these two, looks too be about half a mile inside North Carolina...
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.584128,-81.612448&spn=0.001637,0.005472&t=h&z=18
>
> Andy J
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>
>
>> Beautiful pictures!  Although I rode the Abingdon branch in diesel days, 
>> I do not remember any prettier scenes.
>>
>> Gordon Hamilton
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> To: <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>>
>>
>>> In October 2004 I walked a segment of the Virginia Creeper Trail from a
>>> point a few miles west of Damascus to Green Cove. It never occurred to
>>> me to take photos of the bridges though I did get a couple. You can see
>>> a few of my pictures along the trail at...
>>>
>>> http://gallery.me.com/hyltonbg#100398
>>>
>>> ###
>>> Bernie Hylton
>>>
>>> "Let it snow...let it snow...let it snow!"
>>>
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Thu Jan 14 08:27:28 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:27:28 -0500
Subject: "Taking Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren
Message-ID: <4B4F1BC0.1010400@vt.edu>

Last night I had the pleasure of "Takin' Twenty" with eleven of the 
Brethren and Friends of the Virginian Railway. Attending for the first time 
was an N&W Radford Division road engineer friend of the Brethren, John 
Adkins. John had the Waste Line Express (Trash Train) that daily runs from 
Roanoke west, on the old Virginian to the Bradshaw Connection, and down the 
spur to the state-of-the-art land fill for Roanoke. Some say this is the 
"best run on the NS system".

Passed around was Virginian Railway Company Employee Time Table No. 13 
taking effect Sunday, May 11, 1930 at 12:01 o???clock A. M. This is a 
system-wide timetable from Sewells Point to Deepwater and all branches and 
sub-divisions of the VGN Norfolk and New River Divisions. This is a copy of 
the original, recently donated to the N&W Archives by Eddie Mooneyham.

At "show and tell" I showed my latest purchase from the local antique pool, 
an early Railway Express badge (pin back) number 2530. Landon and I 
discussed several Library of VA donated items found while working on Right 
of Way Purchases of land by the Virginian, starting in 1903, that we 
entered into the Archives System last week. One involved a piece of land on 
the Guyandot River near the mouth of Pinnacle Creek owned by Levi Lusk. Mr 
Lusk informed the VGN Chief Engineer that "the N&W have a wye crossing our 
line on this property, but have not as yet purchased the right of way and 
Mr. Lusk told Mr. Hines that he would sell this tract to the (Deepwater) 
railway for $1,000". Several more letters recorded many "midnight" and 
"keep this quite" deals where the Right of Way was purchased by the VGN 
"right under the N&W noses". Also we observed many land deals made at that 
time where the VGN purchased land from the Hatfield family (Carl, Lewis and 
Laura Hatfield), of the famous Hatfield and McCoy Feuds. I wonder if there 
were any firearms involved at the these sales...

There was a lot of discussion about articles in the Roanoke paper this week 
about VDOT holding up the Station Project because they did not approve of 
the bidding process. The local VDOT and our sponsor, the City of Roanoke, 
passed on the bid process but one lady in the VDOT contract department in 
Richmond took exception "by a glitch". The project may have to be rebid. 
More on this later. Ironically, the Monday "Roanoke Times" "100 years ago 
today" had a snippet "The new passenger station of the Virginian railway on 
the line of the railway just east of Jefferson street is rapidly nearing 
completion". This indicates that the completed station was not opened until 
1910...

The ebay report this time includes: Slide of VGN 2-6-6-2 #906 $18.75; 1910 
tall globe "VIRGINIAN" lantern (complete)$1,077.82 with 34 bids; 1910 VGN 
Public Timetable $115.27 and a set of three VGN passes and one VGN Safety 
First Pin for $57.00.

Beginning with this report, and since we have a lot of new readers lately, 
I will from time to time reprint significant or unusual items from long 
past previous reports. In keeping with the railroad theme, I will call them 
"Jewels from the Past", just like the jewels in a "Railroad Approved" 
pocket watch. This week's "Jewel from the Past": April 7, 2004, Landon 
Gregory asked us if we knew what the dispatchers and operators did to keep 
train orders dry when it was raining? The train orders were wrapped in 
waxed paper before they were attached to the hoop or stick to "transmit" 
them to the train crews.

Rufus Wingfield appeared last night with one foot bandaged up in an unusual 
manner. He had blistered his left heel with a heating pad, which his doctor 
confiscated. His doctor's bandage did not allow Ruf to make the trip and 
Take Twenty with us, so he improvised and "redressed his wound". He had a 
bedroom slipper covered with an ace bandage held on by rubber bands and 
duct tape. The only thing missing was gorilla glue, so we took up a 
collection for him to get some...

Time to pull the pin on this one!

Departing Now from V248,

Skip Salmon



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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:30:38 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Telegraph offices
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 6, 1910

IN CITY AND COALFIELD
------
Telegraph Offices Closed
    The Norfolk and Western has posted bulletins closing the telegraph offices at Thacker between 6 o'clock in the evening and 7 in the morning; Northfork between 7 at night and 10 in the morning; while the office at Lindsey has been cut out.  The completion of double track has effected this saving which will be tried for a time.  A bulletin has also announced that the Mallet engines which could be used only between Northfork and this city when they were first received in June can now run to the Vivian yard.  This has been brought about by the strengthening of the bridges.
[To one who is familiar with the modern Pocahontas Division, it is difficult to visualize how conditions were when it was single track with bridges that would not support a Mallet locomotive.]

------

Adopts Retrenchment Policy
    Notwithstanding the heavy traffic being enjoyed by the Norfolk and Western just now, the road has again adopted the retrenchment policy on the Pocahontas district.  Two telegraph operators have been cut off at Northfork, one at Thacker and the agency at Falls Mills reduced to the second class with a reduction in the salary of the agent at that station.  The wires will be taken out of the Falls Mills station and the business of the Western Union Telegraph Company handled from the Bluefield office by telephone with Falls Mills.
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The Washington County treasurer asked for an image of the trestle at Watauga
for use as the Personal Property tax decal in 2005. (The decals were
eliminated after 2008). Here is a scan of that decal made from an image I
shot for the County.

Mike Pierry, Jr.

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> Andy -
>
> Volume three of Louis Newton's RAILS REMEMBERED should be able to answer
> your needs.  I believe it is still available through the Society.
>
> EdKing
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> Subject: Va. Creeper wooden bridges, and track charts??
>
>
>  Where would one obtain some track charts for this branch?? And while I am
>> asking, how about track charts for the line from Ivanhoe VA, up to
>> Speedwell, and Reed Jct up to Sylvatus VA??
>>
>> Or are these made in that rare matarial called "un-obtainiam"?
>>
>> Also, if you go to google maps, you can follow much of the line down into
>> NC, you can see several trestles along the way.
>>
>> Like these two, looks too be about half a mile inside North Carolina...
>>
>>
>> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.584128,-81.612448&spn=0.001637,0.005472&t=h&z=18
>>
>> Andy J
>>
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>> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>>
>>
>>  Beautiful pictures!  Although I rode the Abingdon branch in diesel days,
>>> I do not remember any prettier scenes.
>>>
>>> Gordon Hamilton
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>>> Subject: Re: Va. Creeper wooden bridges
>>>
>>>
>>>  In October 2004 I walked a segment of the Virginia Creeper Trail from a
>>>> point a few miles west of Damascus to Green Cove. It never occurred to
>>>> me to take photos of the bridges though I did get a couple. You can see
>>>> a few of my pictures along the trail at...
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.me.com/hyltonbg#100398
>>>>
>>>> ###
>>>> Bernie Hylton
>>>>
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:01:45 -0500
Subject: N&W in 1910--Growth of tonnage
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 6, 1910

GROWTH OF TONNAGE ON NORFOLK AND WESTERN
------
Inauguration of Fast Local Freight Service Would Develop Greater Traffic
    "Ten years ago," said a prominent railroad man last night, "the Norfolk and Western would be blocked from one end to the other if it was offered the tonnage it is handling now.  This tonnage is being handled very rapidly and the increased equipment is proving a money saver every day.  Another noticeable fact is that way sidings are kept clear of cars, showing that the railroad is in a position to take tonnage as fast as it is offered.  By the end of next year," said the man, "the railroad will be in a position to handle an even greater tonnage than now, as the completion of double track will permit of the sending of trains in either direction with greater dispatch than is possible even now when the road seems to monthly add to its handling capacity."
    The people of the outside country and many at home feel that the only commodity being handled on the road is coal but this is an error.  The road is developing a through freight service which brings considerable traffic to the line and an effort is being made to divert tonnage via Norfolk from eastern markets so as to pay for sending trains back through this section.
    Thousands of tons of express, however, are handled daily which should be shipped by express freight from Norfolk and by way freight into the field.  The Norfolk and Western has never put on an active way freight with the result that a great deal of the business which under normal conditions should be handled by freight is and has been going by express.  "If," said this gentleman, "the Norfolk and Western would put on a way freight to be made up in Bluefield or Graham, which could be operated on a schedule the same as passenger trains with the exception that time for switching would be allowed, a great deal of the express which is now handled by the Southern Express Company could be sent by freight at an added profit to the railroad company.  An express freight leaving Norfolk should arrive in this city in the early morning so that plenty of time would be given to start a way freight out of this city early enough in the morning to serve all the towns in the field before noon.  Such a freight train would prove profitable and in time a large enough freight business could be developed to warrant even greater expenditures in this field of freight endeavor."
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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:10:41 -0800
Subject: Y6 route availability
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Were the Y6s (& 5s?) enough heavier than the Y3s that they couldn't go  
some of the same places as the Y3s (such as some mine runs)?  Most of  
the pics I remember of the 6s were on main line trains.

I ask because my HO model RR is laid with Code 70 rail (100 lbs per  
yd?) which is heavy enough for my Y3s and I'm considering getting a  
Broadway Ltd. Y6.  (No one who sees my MR would know the difference,  
but . . . .)

pete groom

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:28:29 -0500
Subject: Virginian in 1910--
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 9, 1910

IN CITY AND COALFIELD
------
Contracts Not Let
    The Virginian Railway Company through H. Fernstrom, engineer, did not let the contracts for improvements as was expected at Norfolk on Saturday.  Mr. Fernstrom expects to go to Maine at once, and it is not likely he will let the contracts until his return.  The work to be done consists of straightening out the line at Harper and will necessitate the removal of 250,000 cubic feet of muck, a great deal of which is hard rock.  The work to be done is about two miles in length.
[Harper, WV, is on the main line about 24 miles north of Mullens; about 10 miles north of Jenny Gap.]
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From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:47:05 -0500
Subject: Y6 route availability
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>From Pocahontas Division TT No. 9, effective July 21, 1955:

TT Rule 105: "The use of engines heavier than Class Z is prohibited on 
Pocahontas Branch west of Pocahontas, Ballard Harman Spur of Tug Fork 
Branch, Superior, Spice Creek, Simmons and Goodwill Bfanches."

To my knowledge, there were no other weight restrictions on coalfield 
branches.  If a branch could accommodate Class Y-3 and Y-4 engines, it could 
also handle Y-5's and Y-6's.

Until dieselization began, Y-3's were generally used on mine shifters, and 
Y-5's and Y-6's on main line runs.  As diesels began to displace Y-5's and 
Y-6's on main line runs, the Y-3's were gradually removed from service and 
replaced by Y-5's and Y-6's on mine shifters until full dieselization 
occurred.

Louis Newton
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> Bluefield Daily Telegraph
> August 6, 1910
>
> GROWTH OF TONNAGE ON NORFOLK AND WESTERN
> ------
> Inauguration of Fast Local Freight Service Would Develop Greater Traffic
>    "Ten years ago," said a prominent railroad man last night, "the Norfolk 
> and Western would be blocked from one end to the other if it was offered 
> the tonnage it is handling now.  This tonnage is being handled very 
> rapidly and the increased equipment is proving a money saver every day. 
> Another noticeable fact is that way sidings are kept clear of cars, 
> showing that the railroad is in a position to take tonnage as fast as it 
> is offered.  By the end of next year," said the man, "the railroad will be 
> in a position to handle an even greater tonnage than now, as the 
> completion of double track will permit of the sending of trains in either 
> direction with greater dispatch than is possible even now when the road 
> seems to monthly add to its handling capacity."
>    The people of the outside country and many at home feel that the only 
> commodity being handled on the road is coal but this is an error.  The 
> road is developing a through freight service which brings considerable 
> traffic to the line and an effort is being made to divert tonnage via 
> Norfolk from eastern markets so as to pay for sending trains back through 
> this section.
>    Thousands of tons of express, however, are handled daily which should 
> be shipped by express freight from Norfolk and by way freight into the 
> field.  The Norfolk and Western has never put on an active way freight 
> with the result that a great deal of the business which under normal 
> conditions should be handled by freight is and has been going by express. 
> "If," said this gentleman, "the Norfolk and Western would put on a way 
> freight to be made up in Bluefield or Graham, which could be operated on a 
> schedule the same as passenger trains with the exception that time for 
> switching would be allowed, a great deal of the express which is now 
> handled by the Southern Express Company could be sent by freight at an 
> added profit to the railroad company.  An express freight leaving Norfolk 
> should arrive in this city in the early morning so that plenty of time 
> would be given to start a way freight out of this city early enough in the 
> morning to serve all the towns in the field before no
> on.  Such a freight train would prove profitable and in time a large 
> enough freight business could be developed to warrant even greater 
> expenditures in this field of freight endeavor."
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> Were the Y6s (& 5s?) enough heavier than the Y3s that they couldn't go
> some of the same places as the Y3s (such as some mine runs)?  Most of
> the pics I remember of the 6s were on main line trains.
>
> I ask because my HO model RR is laid with Code 70 rail (100 lbs per
> yd?) which is heavy enough for my Y3s and I'm considering getting a
> Broadway Ltd. Y6.  (No one who sees my MR would know the difference,
> but . . . .)
>
> pete groom
>
>
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From nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org  Sun Jan 17 18:34:22 2010
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org (NW Mailing List)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:34:22 -0800
Subject: Y6 route availability
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Thanks, Louis..

After some research, I found that the 6s were only about 25 tons (on  
drivers) heavier than the 3s, so that makes sense.

pete groom
On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:47 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:

>> From Pocahontas Division TT No. 9, effective July 21, 1955:
>
> TT Rule 105: "The use of engines heavier than Class Z is prohibited  
> on Pocahontas Branch west of Pocahontas, Ballard Harman Spur of Tug  
> Fork Branch, Superior, Spice Creek, Simmons and Goodwill Bfanches."
>
> To my knowledge, there were no other weight restrictions on  
> coalfield branches.  If a branch could accommodate Class Y-3 and Y-4  
> engines, it could also handle Y-5's and Y-6's.
>
> Until dieselization began, Y-3's were generally used on mine  
> shifters, and Y-5's and Y-6's on main line runs.  As diesels began  
> to displace Y-5's and Y-6's on main line runs, the Y-3's were  
> gradually removed from service and replaced by Y-5's and Y-6's on  
> mine shifters until full dieselization occurred.
>
> Louis Newton