Iron Ore on the N&W 1910

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What type of iron was produced in this region? . . . . i.e., what was it used for in producing a final and why did most/all of these furnaces disappears so fast?  Was it suitable for producing steel?



Al Kresse


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   1. RE: 611 accident (NW Mailing List)
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Gene: I was curious about your brother B.L. Arnold. Sounds like he was railroad man as well. Was he killed in an railroad accident? Thanks.
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I was 16  and lived in Bluefield when that happened. I remember the wreck cars being called out, my brother T. C. Arnold Jr. was one of the brakeman. It was passed around that Mr. Willard( a very much respected engineer on the Poky Division) was dead at the throttle from a heart attack  when rounding the curve. My brother, B. L. Arnold was killed June 6, 1956 at Arista Mountain. The blue light at the call office was lit for both accessions. Sorry Gentlemen, I intended to say "occasions". Being from W.Va. I was only required to take one foreign language, and that was English. As you can see, I still have my problems.
Gene Arnold
Gloucester, Va.


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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
October 9, 1910

THE GRAHAM DAILY NEWS
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VALUABLE VEIN OF IRON ORE DISCOVERED
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On the Iron Ore Range Controlled in Connection With Graham Furnace
    There is excitement at Graham over the fact that Walter Graham has found, only thirty miles from Graham, immediately on the railroad, a vein of solid oriskany iron ore, eighteen feet thick on the extensive iron ore range he controls in connection with Graham furnace, which now has available, unlimited iron ore, coke and limestone, of high quality, practically at the furnace.
    Mr. Graham's father, after whom the town is named, got together these lands before Graham furnace was built, when he was building the New River railroad.  Only in the past year has new railroad development made them available.
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[But lurking off stage were the cheaper Mesabi Range ores.]

Gordon Hamilton
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Lois, Remember, when they rebuilt 611 after the wreck, they did not re-install the "roof" to the boiler top casing. It's missing in many of the videos and photos of 611, post 1956. John
 


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In fact, a copy of the death certificate, which I have obtained, states the cause of death as 'coronary thrombosis' which I take to be a heart attack. I will note also Mr. Willard's death was noted in the February 1956 issue of the Norfolk and Western Magazine; the wreck, of course, was not.
Lois J. Ponton
611 Historian
 


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I was 16  and lived in Bluefield when that happened. I remember the wreck cars being called out, my brother T. C. Arnold Jr. was one of the brakeman. It was passed around that Mr. Willard( a very much respected engineer on the Poky Division) was dead at the throttle from a heart attack  when rounding the curve. My brother, B. L. Arnold was killed June 6, 1956 at Arista Mountain. The blue light at the call office was lit for both accessions.
Gene Arnold
Gloucester, Va.

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 While finishing my book on the 611 1956 wreck, 'Midnight on the Pocahontas' I have been looking through details and realize I do not have that much information on the engineer, Walter Willard. What I do know about him:
Born: August 4, 1895
Died:January 23, 1956
Home: Princeton, West Virginia
Married to: Carrie Viola Gordon; no children
Family: Brothers James, John, J.W. "Spot" Willard, Benjamin Willard, at least three sisters. I do not know the parents or where they came from.
Hired on the N&W in 1909.
Character: Don't know. I would like to get some idea on what the man might have been like so he is not cast as a 'villain' (which I personally don't want to do) especially if someone sees this book and decides to make a film of it.
If any of you can supply any information please email me at ljp611 at ntelos.net or reply to this message.
Thank you.
Lois J. Ponton
611 Historian


 



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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
October 9, 1910

ALL STEEL PULLMAN
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The First Car of Its Kind to Be Seen in This Section
    The first all steel Pullman car ever seen here passed through the city yesterday afternoon on its way to Gary, attached to train No. 1.  It is named "Brownston" [sic], and was in charge of Captain Paul.  The car is equipped with an axle generator which generates the electricity used on the car and has a sectional heating plant which makes it possible to heat certain sections of the car while the others remain unheated.  It has a number of other modern improvements which interested a number of the railroad men at the station yesterday.  Its weight is 145,000 pounds.  The car is similar to those which are used on the Pennsylvania railroad in its new tunnel from Jersey into the new Union station which will be opened for public service on the 13th of November.
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http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/240238



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This was a typical train length/consist of trains 1 and 2 just before dieselization of the Shenandoah Divsion: 6-7 cars. And if it had a diner, it was normally added to the end of the train on 1 and 2. The diner was usually placed in between the pullmans and coaches on most other trains.

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