Need baggage - mail car help!

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The diagram of D&RGW 632 is definitely not the car pictured as AC 208/10059. The RPO is not even the same length!. Something is wrong with the records. The car pictured appears definitely to be an ex-N&W BMg.   Jim Nichols

 


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 I got this from the D&RGW Historical Society web site. 
632    bag-mail, 4-axle, 71ft Pull -13 ex-D&SL #560 
I further found this diagram:
http://www.drgw.org/data/passenger/folios/pages/p037.htm
Unfortunately, this seems to bring into question the supposed lineage of AC 208/10059, especially given the disposal dates that Jim lists below, as Algoma Central obtained 208 in 1949 from D&RGW, according to several sources.

'tis a puzzlement....

Dave Phelps

In a message dated 5/17/2010 6:58:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:
Myy information indicates Class BMg Baggage/Mail were built in January 1927 by Bethlehem.  There were four cars in this class.  The information that I have indicates the following dispositions:

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>10 - sold 9/26/63 to Ortner Freight Car Co.

>11 - sold 9/7/61 to Waldo E. Bugbee

>12 - Sold 11/30/56 to James M. Motley & Co., Inc.

>13 - Converted to Mail Storage Car #1425 by Roanoke Shops on 11/3/55 and reclassified MS2.

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>Jim Brewer

>Glenwood MD

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>I am doing some research on the N&W class BMg baggage - 15' mail apartment cars and was wondering if anyone could help me with some information.  The original series appears to have started with the number 10 and it is known to me that there was a number 11 as well.  One car later on was converted to class MS3 mail storage and numbered 1425.  Can anyone tell me anything more about the series, how many cars there actually was and what their numbers were?

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>The reason I am asking is because of a baggage - 15' mail apartment car that ended up on the Algoma Central roster as their 208.  It appears that prior to going to the AC the car was Rio Grande 632, ex-Denver & Salt Lake 560, the only car of its kind.  But in looking at a shot of N&W 11 and AC 208 (renumbered as AC 10059 in MofW service) the car is nearly identical, save for some alterations for MofW service.  Was there another car in this series?  I can help wondering if there was since the Rio Grande took over the D&SL before the 1956 diagrams that I have.  Here are the two shots I am comparing... minor detail differences.

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>N&W 11

>http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns2047.jpeg

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>AC 10059

>http://algomacentral.railfan.net/images/AlgoCenRy/AC_10059_Steelton_5-30-1981.jpg

>http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1957938

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>Thanks in advance!!!

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