Doubleheaded K2s?

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Hello:

Does anyone remember doubleheaded K2s on passenger consists operating
between Portsmouth and Williamson in the late '40s and early '50s?  I
believe I saw some but I was pretty young at the time and I don't trust my
recollection.
Cheers,
 
Rick Eads
Garland, TX 


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   1. Re: N&W in 1911--Engineers take a ride (NW Mailing List)
   2. Re: Trash containers (NW Mailing List)
   3. Duplication of railway and RMS documents during the 1890s
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   4. N&W  in 1911--Hauls automobiles (NW Mailing List)
   5. RE: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip
      Salmon (NW Mailing List)
 
 
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:32:16 EST
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Subject: Re: N&W in 1911--Engineers take a ride
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That must have been some special car... 75 engineers and their wives if
they were all married would require 150 seats!
 
Thanks,
 
Richard D. Shell
 
 
In a message dated 2/26/2011 11:55:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:
 
Bluefield Daily Telegraph
July 6,  1911
 
FOUR DAYS OF FUN
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Number of Local Engineers and Wives Anticipate  Enjoyable Ride
 
    It is expected that seventy-five engineers  and their wives will leave
this morning on train No. 5 for St. Paul, Va., on a  special car.  From that
point they will go to Spartanburg, S. C., where  they will spend two or
three days as the guests of the Brotherhood of  Locomotive Engineers and
officials of the Carolina, Clinchfield and  Ohio.  A special train tendered
by the
Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio  will meet the party at St. Paul and take
them over the new road.  The  picnic and trip is given in return for the
kindnesses shown by the local  division of the Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers to the lodge established  on the Carolina, Clinchfield and Ohio. 
At
Spartanburg a picnic and other  forms of amusement will be provided and all
those
who are planning the trip  look forward to four days of fun.
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[How did the N&W keep running with this many engineers  gone for four days?]
 
Gordon  Hamilton
 
 
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:47:22 -0500
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Subject: Re: Trash containers
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Gordon,
    The trash containers are going to Atlantic in Waverly, Va.
 
Jimmy Lisle
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:31:01 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Duplication of railway and RMS documents during the 1890s
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Hello!
 
Has anyone encountered "copying books?"  These were bound ledgers of thin,
plain, yellow or white tissue paper.  The paper had the consistency a thin,
soft, smooth-textured paper towel and wasn't like onion-skin paper.? Printed
forms, typewriter ribbons, and writing ink were available to facilitate
duplication long before photocopying or carbon copies.
 
To make a copy of the correspondence, the completed sheet was dampened, laid
within a copying book with a blank tissue page over the sheet, and then put
into a book press to make an impression onto the tissue page.? I am not
finding much information about this approach to making business copies.?
Some railway and Railway Mail Service forms from about the 1890s-1910s were
printed using this "copying ink."
 
I'd welcome references to when this method came into use and later was
generally discontinued.? Some information may appear in printer's supply and
stationery catalogs which might illustrate these items.? I've purchased a
book press and will eventially put it into the records room at Boyce station
 although I think this approach to copying station records was on the
decline by 1913.
 
Thanks for any information,
 
Frank Scheer
f_scheer at yahoo.com
 
 
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:37:42 -0500
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Subject: N&W  in 1911--Hauls automobiles
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
July 6, 1911
 
THE GRAHAM DAILY NEWS
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Twelve Passenger Auto
 
    A twelve passenger automobile shipped from Racine, Wis., to Cleveland,
Va., passed through here yesterday over the Norfolk and Western enroute to
Cleveland.  The big car was consigned to Rufus Smith and will be used on the
macadam road between Cleveland and Lebanon to haul passengers between the
railroad station and the county seat.
------
[Apparently someone spied the car in Bluefield, which means that it probably
was  shipped on an open flat car.  Cleveland and Lebanon are in Russell
County, and a trip of that day over the hilly terrain between the two towns
could have been an adventure.  Macadam roads were named for a Scotsman, John
McAdam who pioneered a road with three layers of angular aggregate (broken
stones) over a sloped subgrade--a big improvement over dirt roads or those
surfaced with round rocks.  Later when a bitumen binder was added to a
macadam road, it was termed "tar macadam," or "tarmac" for short.]
 
Gordon Hamilton
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 7:37:35 -0500
From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: RE: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip
  Salmon
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Daniel,
We meet every Wednesday evening about 5 PM at the Country Cookin' Restaurant
5325 Brambleton Ave (US 221) Roanoke, VA 24018. We would love your you to
come "Take Twenty" with us.
Skip
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:21 AM
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Subject: "Takin' Twenty" with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon
?
Last night I had the pleasure of "Takin' Twenty" with ten of the Brethren
and Friends of the Virginian Railway. We signed a Happy Birthday Card for
Bill Turner, VGN brakeman and conductor. Bill started on the N&W October,
1950, and after the Korean Conflict was over, signed on with the VGN in
August, 1957. He retired from NS, December, 1991, and will turn 79 tomorrow.
 
I passed around a flyer for the Roanoke Chapter NRHS Spring Excursion trip
from Roanoke by bus to Lynchburg, and Amtrak to Washington DC for a
five-hour layover, and return, on April 20, 2011. Their web site has all the
details of this trip. Speaking of the Roanoke Chapter NRHS, at our annual
dinner meeting last week, those who did not get a 2011 NS Calendar at the
January meeting were given one. There was one left, so I brought it to our
meeting last night and had a raffle and the winner was Ken McLain. At that
meeting, Jeff Sanders remembered those who took the west bound last year,
and mentioned VGN Trainmaster Rufus Wingfield. Also passed last night was a
poem given to me by the VGN Station Renovation Architect, Barry Rakes. It
was given to him by Mrs. R. W. Smiley, widow of an engineer known by Wis
Sowder and several of the Brethren. The poem contained the following verse: 
Also that amazing tale when old Captain Barger left Oakvale, on board two
experts at many games, n
  one other than Frank and Jesse James".
 
The Jewel from the Past is from February 10, 2005: "I showed the Brethren
the email from Doug Harris of Auckland, New Zealand who saw Russell Inge's
photo that I posted and said 'Please tell Slick his fame has reached New
Zealand'. Of course this got a lot of 'hoots and hollars' and jokes about
unusual animals that live in New Zealand and how Slick would fit right in
there". Note: After the recent earthquake in New Zealand, I emailed our good
friend Doug Harris and asked if he was OK. I got a response last night: "I'm
way out of the quake area, but know some modelers in Christchurch. It's
about 2 hours flying time south of here...about 20 people were killed in the
Cathedral which has collapsed, and the current death toll is put at 75 with
around 300 missing".
 
Passed around was the latest issue of "Classic Trains" with several stories
about the N&W. Also passed was a photo I took last Saturday of an eastbound
coal train on the old VGN. Highlighted in the photo was milepost V251, just
west of the Salem Connection and the old VGN Station location. Another photo
passed was of the new replica of the passenger shelter that sat at Nutbush,
now an exhibit at Greg Elam's Victoria Rail Park. Greg had the nearby
Lunenburg Correctional Center manufacture and donate this fine example of
VGN "shelterdum"...
 
For "Show and Tell" I brought my friend John McDaniel's EL-2b Maintenance
Manual. This inch thick VGN manual gives instructions as well as photos on
how to maintain the streamliners. Items of interest include: "1. Every 120
000 miles, the EL-2b windshield wipers were to be removed, cleaned and oiled
with automobile machine oil; 2. Before every trip, the pantograph collector
wear shoes were to be lubed with graphite grease (Dixon 1924 or equivalent)
and 3. The Controller Drum segments, after every 30,000 miles were to be
cleaned and lubricated with Vaseline".
 

>From last week, Daniel Winter III corrected me with the peanut plant at

Suffolk being Birdsong (not Bird Song). Dave Phelps, who is retired from the
GE plant in Erie PA corrected my reference to the old diesel switcher VGN #6
as being an "Alco-GE". It was 100% "just GE". I got my information from the
Harold A. Reid book. (Harold A. made any miscues in the book; H. made none).
Landon Gregory and Raymond East, who worked with the peanut trains and
plants in Suffolk, said that yes, every fall there was a run on good clean
box cars for the plants. Landon said that he had orders to not let any box
cars with lime in them "any where near Planters".
 
The ebay report this time includes the following VGN items sold: Early 1900
Tidewater RY documents sold for $360.69; Slide of VGN Trainmaster and 4-6-2
meet for $47.79; "V. Ry" Adlake #185 lantern for $489.07; 23 Blackhawk Color
Slides for $24.99; EL-C Operating Manual for $92.99; Operating Manual for
F-M Trainmaster for $74.99 and a layout of Elmore Yard for $26.00.
 
Finally, Richard Shell wrote me when he recognized Benny F. Sammons in the
two Landon Gregory story. He recalled an incident with him and Benny that
involved brokering goats, Fred and Willie, and hauling them in the back of a
Firebird. Seems that the goats got away and were lured back with Corn Pops.
He got them home only to have them escape the day before hunting season
opened in Botetourt County. Richard lives not far from Lithia, VA, on the
N&W. A fellow told me once that in that part of the county, in the dog days
of summer, mosquitos get so big that "they have their own ticks".
 
Time to pull the pin on this one!
 
Departing Now from V248,
 
Skip Salmon
 
CCCLVI
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SKIP SALMON
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