Express Boxcar ?

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Gordon:
 
I'm in 100% agreement with all your findings and conclusions.   However, on 
the NWHS web site in the archives area, there is the  following:
 
 
1 document found for N&W Rwy Passenger Mail Storage Class B8  
_Ordering  info_ (http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/prices.shtml)  
- records with thumbnails  
 
     Doc Type Locator Description Date Revision Date    Drawing NW Mech Dwg
NW-D45856 Steel Details for Box Car Class B8 for Temporary Mail  Storage Car
 
Unfortunately, in a half hour of searching, that is  literally the only 
reference I could find.  The picture implies that at  least two B-8's were so 
converted.  I can't add anything else.
 
Dave


 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2011 8:33:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

Dave,
 
Here are a few comments that others  may be able to augment.  First, I'm 
not convinced that the two  box-express cars are B8's.  Second, whatever they 
are, in order to  operate in a passenger train they would have to be 
equipped with a  passenger-type air brake control valve, a communication signal 
line and a  steam trainline.  So, equipment converted like this should be  
listed somewhere by the N&W.
 
I found information on Class Ef  box express cars No. 220 - 228 and 230 - 
239 in N&W Motive Power Data Book  No. 1.  These are the only box express 
cars listed in the  two copies of  Data Book No. 1 that I checked.  One copy is 
 dated Aug. 15, 1951 and the other is dated April 1, 1953, so these  
bracket the listed date of August Thieme's photo, Dec. 6, 1952.
 
Both copies of Data Book No. 1 have  the same information for the Class Ef 
cars, viz., No. 220 - 228 "Roanoke Shops  1929," and No. 230 - 239 
"Converted from BSb box car 1941."  So,  these must have been the cars in service 
when Thieme took his photo.   Incidentally, the Class BSb box  cars had 
"Dreadnaught" corrugated ends similar to the ends visible in the  photo.
 
Gordon Hamilton
 
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A Google search took me to the OGR Forum, where someone pointed out  that 
per the NWHS web site, N&W had converted some B-8 boxcars to  express 
service.  If you look closely at the end corrugations of the  first car, it screams 
"Pullman PS-1" at you, i.e. B-8.  However, a  quick look through my 
reference materials yielded no details, listing of  cars converted, or installation 
of passenger air brake systems.  So,  that's about all I can contribute - 
hopefully others have more  information.
 
Dave Phelps
 
 
In a message dated 5/20/2011 7:43:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

 
Can someone enlighten me as to what class of  box car is seen in the 
following photo behind the K1  locomotive?
 
_http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=5556_ 
(http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=5556) 
 
What color they may they have been  painted?
 
Jimmy  Lisle



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