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the new two mile sideing is located between rattcliff marsh sideing & kings sideing, dont have mile markers avalible.




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   1. Re: Early black diesel freight scheme logos (NW Mailing List)
  2. Re: Early black diesel freight scheme logos (NW Mailing List)
  3. RE: WHAT IS MILE POST FOR RURAL RETREAT VA? (NW Mailing List)

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GP9's and GP18's, both freight and passenger got the shields for the script 
eralds. Alcos did not need them as ends were flat already. When the half moon 
erald was applied later, the shields were removed.??????? Jim Nichols


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Hi,

I'm interested in the 'gothic' script logos applied to the locomotive ends of 
GP9's.? I had though that it was only the red passenger diesels that were 
itted 
with 'shields' and that freight engine logos were painted on.? However I have 
now seen pictures of what appear to be black freight engines with the logo on a 

>shield, was this universal does anyone know?


The half moon logo does appear to have been just painted onto the loco ends, 
unless anyone can say different?

Could anyone clarify?these points??

Thanks

Andy Thornton  
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All original N&W GP9's eventually got the plates. The pre-1958 units were 
etrofitted when relettered with the gothic scheme. Beginning in 1958, all new 
nits were delivered with the gothic lettering and the plates for the heralds. 
edbirds 500-504 were originaly delivered in the 700 series in black with steam 
ra lettering and no plates. When reworked at Roanoke into the 500 series, hey 
ot the plates and the red paint. And, yes, all the GP9's and GP18's eventually 
ad the plates removed when the half moon heralds were applied (or the white NW 
cheme, if they missed the half moon herald).
Jim Nichols


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This discussion applies only to units purchased new by N&W pre-NKP/WAB/ACY/PWV 
erger) 
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o my knowledge all the passenger GP-9?s originally had the round metal plates 
n their ends with the script N&W emblem on them.? These round plates went away 
hen the units were repainted ?and the ? moon emblems were applied.? Many 
reight GP-9?s (and GP-18?s?) also had the round plates with the script emblem 
hat likewise went away when the units were repainted.? I don?t know if all the 
reight GP-9?s and GP-18?s) originally had the round emblem plates or not.? If 
hey didn?t it would be interesting to know where the cutoff point was with 
elivery of the units.? Likewise the GP-9?s received in what I call the ?steam 
ocomotive scheme? (Norfolk and Western on the side of the long hood and numbers 
under the cab windows only ? all in gold) obviously weren?t delivered with the 
ound emblem plates since there were no emblems. 300 series RS-3?s and RS-11?s 
ever had such plates due to having flatter hood ends than the EMD units.? Other 
comments?? Corrections?

d Painter Narrows, Virginia ? Living in Russellville, AR

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Hi,
?
I'm interested in the 'gothic' script logos applied to the locomotive ends of 
GP9's.? I had though that it was only the red passenger diesels that were 
itted 
with 'shields' and that freight engine logos were painted on.? However I have 
now seen pictures of what appear to be black freight engines with the logo on a 

>shield, was this universal does anyone know?

?
The half moon logo does appear to have been just painted onto the loco ends, 
unless anyone can say different?
?
Could anyone clarify?these points??
?
Thanks
?
Andy Thornton  
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Crockett (some of my Wythe County ancestors ? my g-g grandmothers family) Siding 
s just east of town.  It was extended in length not too many years ago.  Was 
hat the siding in question?
Ed Painter ? Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR

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Don -
The town itself is between mileposts 349 and 350.  The current signal next to 
he station is 349.6.
Jeff Hawkins

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lso looking to find a copy of the 1916 Valuation Map of Rural Retreat siding 
here N&W wreck occurred in 1920.  Can anybody help?
on Jackson
WinNscale at aol.com
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