N&W 1459 mail storage @ Illinois Railway Museum

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The information that I have is as follows: 

  

N&W 1459, Class MS1 mail storage car, was converted at Roanoke Shops on June 5, 1952 from Class BPI 620. 



N&W 620,  Class BPI, Baggage/Passenger car,  was itself converted in February 1947 at Roanoke Shops from Coach #759. 



N&W 759, Class Pn, Coach, was onverted at Roanoke Shops in May 1941 from the Pullman Oralie , which had been purchased from Pullman in March 1941. 



N&W 1459 was donated to the Springfield Model Railroad Association in June 1969, and later to the Monticello Railway Museum. 



Hope this helps. 



Jim Brewer 

Glenwood MD 





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Subject: Re: N&W 1459 mail storage @ Illinois Railway Museum 

A total of 37 Plan 2416 parlor cars were acquired by the N&W and 1 Plan 3416 parlor car.  I have the list (thanks to help from this list) but there are some problems, specifically names misspelled... . 

#750 - Clairidge (name mispelled, should be "Claridge") 
#752 - Elanette (Plan 2418 28 parlor seat - Drawing Room) 
#761 - Anthracite had its name changed to Tobyhanna 1913 
#765 - Hager (name mispelled, should be "HAGAR") 
#768 - Alvarette (name mispelled, should be "Alvaretta") 
#772 - Roseclear (name mispelled, should be "Rosecleer") 

Other Plan 2416 parlors acquired by the N&W: Emlenton, Herminie (as tourist car 6056) and Conestoga. 

The one Plan 3416 parlor car was Pullman tourist car 6042, originally named Narcissus.  I am certain that this is the 1459, based on the rivet pattern that remains visible on the side of the car, in the photo linked to below.  The rivet pattern indicates that there was a single aisle window on this end and not the paired window of a Plan 2416 car, such as N&W 755 in the second link. Pullman cars which have been rebuilt can be identified by their rivet pattern, which reveals what sort of window pattern the car formerly had. 
http://www.irm.org/gallery/NW1459/aad 
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2671.jpeg 

I had assumed that the Narcissus had been converted to coach but apparently this was not the case.  Like the other three Plan 2416 cars it simply may have been set aside until converted to a baggage car. 
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