Double headed J's?

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Great!!...now I have documented justification to double head my J's without incurring the withering gaze of my fellow NTRAK clubmembers. My next challenge is to explain why the two J's, with Arrow in tow, are crossing the liftbridge in front of the harbor on my Narragansett, Fitchburg & Boston module. many thanks to all who responded to and lent your knowledge to my question.

Bob Parsons


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  The Cincinnati RR Club has a single photo of two J's double-heading the ARROW past Clare yard.  Based  on my research, I have photos of two K-2's, two J's, A and J and A and K-2 eastbound out of Cincinnati.   The schedule was set up so that an engine arriving at CUT could be serviced and set off as protection power for the next passenger train going east.  This engine would then power the next train east.  

   

  There are no known photos of doubling passenger trains westbound to Cincinnati; this would be quite unlikely as the 'normal' train consist of the Pocahontas, Arrow or Cavalier wouldn't require this- although there were a bunch of second sections of the Cavalier in heavy mail times, particularly eastward.   The trains of the double-headed eastbound trains is NEVER more than that which a single engine could handle with ease.

   

  It would seem that N&W power dispatching was well aware of the reliability of the J's and rebuilt K-2's so that they would send the protection power engine back east early in a double-head move.

  Class A's were common on the Peavine as they were the power for the time freights 85/86, 77/78 and lots of the 94/99 trains as indicated by employee time book records with Y-5's mostly holding down the coal extras and many of the heavy freights on 94/99.  It is not known if the returned  Class A engines were brought over as freight engines and doubled on to the passenger train eastward or were brought into CUT as passenger power.  One photo I have shows an A and a J at the CUT platforms.  

   

  I cannot speak as to the power on baseball specials or any other special train in or out of CUT.

   

  I would propose that the double-headed passenger trains lost one engine at Portsmouth, Ohio upon its arrival.  

   

  Gary Rolih

  Cincinnati

   

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  I believe the 1952 campaign train of Dwight Eisenhower used double headed J's from Winston-Salem to Roanoke, Lynchburg, and beyond.

   

   

         Ray Smoot

   

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  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:55 AM
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  Hi Bob

   

  Class Js running together was not what I'd consider a common occurrence. The only consistent occasions that I've found were special trains, usually carrying a US President or candidate. There was an occasional occurrence, but for the most part during normal operations, no. Rarely were Js doubleheader in any case, I suspect that the photos you are thinking of Class K2/K2a with freight locomotives. Those cases, were generally a break in run after shopping, or simply moving power to return it to its home terminal.

   

  It is your railroad, run whatever you like! 

   

  Ken Miller

   

  On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:03 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:

   

  Hello,

    I've seen many photos of J's double headed with other types of locomotives but did the N&W ever run 2 J's together. I'm an N scale modeler and would love to run two of them together, I think it would look great. Thanks in advance.

   

  Bob Parsons

  Indianapolis

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