N&W Pullman 4137 ?

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Passenger Cars don't have serial numbers , Lot and Plan numbers all that I have ever seen.

Larry Evans
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  Some of the MARC cars were purchased by the S.A.M. Shortline in GA, where they still run with some ex-PRR coaches converted from 22 roomette cars (probably also ex-MARC). Rick's observations make sense, but still do not explain the 1950 date and the name "Norfolk Pride." Maybe the person who wrote on the business card thought he was giving the built date (which would have been a few months earlier), and the reference to Norfolk Pride was intended as an accolade rather than a car name. At any rate, if 4137 is indeed a Budd serial number, it ought to be engraved on the plate somewhere.

  Jim Nichols




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  I think I can clarify the origin of the Budd builder's plate from an N&W S-1.

  Around 1964 N&W sold all twenty S-1's to the Pennsylvania Railroad.  PRR
  stripped exterior paint, gutted the interiors and converted them into
  coaches.  Eventually some or all of these coaches were sold to MARC, the
  state of Maryland's commuter operation.  I remember riding an excursion
  from Hagerstown to Cumberland in the 1980's and at least one car in the
  train had the Budd builders plate stating the car had been built for N&W. 
  MARC called these "Heritage" cars, and I think I also saw a plaque with
  the car's original name. I'm guessing the number 4137 may be on the back
  of the plate in question.  You can be sure that Budd would have used a
  production number for everything they built.

  I don't think MARC has any of the ex-N&W cars in service anymore.  If a
  car was wrecked, I am reasonably certain it happened in MARC service, or
  on PRR. Since the car ended up in Cumberland, I would suspect MARC.
  Several years ago MARC had a serious wreck, and fire, when an eastbound
  from Brunswick to Washington sideswiped the westbound Amtrak Capitol
  Limited near Silver Spring, MD.  I do not know exactly which MARC cars
  were destroyed. The MARC train ran a signal, and hit the motive power of
  Amtrak 29 as it was going thru a crossover.  The ruptured fuel tank on
  Amtrak set the derailed MARC train on fire.  It was running in "push"
  mode.

  When I was in Cumberland last Autumn, I observed an ex N&W S-1 in service
  on the Western Maryland Scenic RR, so at least some are still around.

  --Rick Morrison

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