N&W Boxcar pre-1963 paint scheme question

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I certainly didn't mean it that way. The new Athearn is pretty good at 
what it does. What it doesn't do is keep a stock of anything
(you need normal stuff like 40 & 50 foot box cars!) and a decent (not 
great) $50 loco. I don't make a living
selling stuff to the expert builders and rivet counters. I make my 
living selling to dad and his kids. I miss that old $35 F7!
I replaced many a dead 4 oz Tyco with it.

I know that no version of Athearn is big. But there are things about the 
scale train business that does drive me nuts.

Tom Cosgrove

On 3/13/2013 1:49 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:

> >The old Athearn no longer exists. After old Irv >passed, the family 

> sold it to Horizon Hobby.

> >No one cares...

> Please, the current Athearn gets things right far more often than the 

> old Athearn.  And in  my opinion, they are TOO sensitive to what 

> modelers think, and are afraid to make mistakes because of the 

> armchair businessmen out there (including on here), and have refused 

> to do "close enough" production runs that would satisfy most people, 

> because a few people might jump all over them.  But if you're happy 

> with the same old F7s and 40' boxcars painted for every railroad under 

> the sun, fine, bring back the "old" Athearn.

> As for the brave soul who made this anonymous bash:

> >What?  A big company like that with a picky customer >base makes a 

> production run based on one >overexposed photo?  Seems hard to 

> >believe....someone from Athearn should chime in here.

> >Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

>

> First, there are no big companies in model railroading.  Most employ 

> far less than 100 people, small by any standard.

> Second, what's wrong with a manufacturer making a model based on a 

> photograph in a book? If the photograph was so obviously overexposed, 

> shouldn't the book's author and publisher have included a note in the 

> caption that the color is actually brown, not black?  If I am a 

> manufacturer or novice modeler, with no in depth knowledge of a 

> railroad's paint schemes, I look at the that photograph and say the 

> car is black.

> Athearn made an honest mistake, and is far from the worst or most 

> puzzling one ever commited. At least there is an explanation for it.  

> They can't afford to employ experts for every railroad, nor take the 

> time to run every project by the appropriate historical societies, 

> especially if they want to keep it a secret until it is released.  We 

> should be pleased that they are willing to invest in the equipment 

> guides, and do our best to ensure that the publications put forth the 

> most accurate information possible.

> Marty Flick

>

>

>

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>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:39 PM

>     *Subject:* Re: N&W Boxcar pre-1963 paint scheme question

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>     The old Athearn no longer exists. After old Irv passed, the family

>     sold it to Horizon Hobby.

>     No one cares...

>

>     Tom Cosgrove

>

>     On 3/10/2013 10:08 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:

>>     What?  A big company like that with a picky customer base makes a

>>     production run based on one overexposed photo?  Seems hard to

>>     believe....someone from Athearn should chime in here.

>>

>>     Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

>>

>>     ----- Reply message -----

>>     From: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

>>     Date: Sat, Mar 9, 2013 9:53 pm

>>     Subject: N&W Boxcar pre-1963 paint scheme question

>>     To: <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

>>

>>     I can remember my local Hobby Shop owner talking about this

>>     particular car. The Athearn Rep had stopped by the store and

>>     discussed this model. Athearn had made the model black based on

>>     what they saw in the picture. The Owner told the Rep that the car

>>     was actually boxcar red  and that the lighting in the picture

>>     gave it there black look. Looking at the photo in the book,

>>     around the door, the color is definitely of a brown hue. Alan Cox

>>     In a message dated 3/9/2013 6:45:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>>     nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:

>>

>>         The N&W had a paint scheme used on boxcars before the

>>         half-moon logo scheme.  It was the pre-1963 scheme that had

>>         the Norfolk and Western roadname spelled out in capital Roman

>>         style font lettering in white or silver, w/ N&W reporting

>>         marks & car number on the other end in Roman font.  Some of

>>         the cars had silver doors some did not.   My question is,

>>         were these cars ever BLACK, or were they only the

>>         brown/boxcar red in this particular paint scheme?    I looked

>>         at a friend's copy of the N&W Color Guide, and an example of

>>         this scheme in question is on page 39 of a combo door 50'

>>         boxcar. In the pic, the boxcar looks almost black, but I

>>         think it's actually dark brown, in a dark pic.  Did N&W ever

>>         paint boxcars w/ that paint scheme in black?

>>

>>         Athearn made this exact car in HO but it is in BLACK, and I

>>         want to make sure they were accurate on this- they tend to do

>>         a lot of wrong things in HO.

>>

>>         - Moderator (email question from non-mailing list person)

>>

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