Y Class, Etc
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    Sat Jun 29 07:38:43 EDT 2013
    
    
  
Ed:
 
I'm confident Pete will clarify in his own right, but for my part I read  
his posting as meaning the boiler horsepower capability as a "steam 
generator",  not the drawbar horsepower that you're citing.
 
Dave Phelps
 
 
In a message dated 6/29/2013 6:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:
Pete  -
Where do you get your horsepower figures?  The rating for the  Y-6 was 
worked 
out using train resistance formulae and the actual  topography of the 
territory by Dave Stephenson and published in the  Arrow.  There was never 
a 
7000 horsepower figure put out for the  A.  The first test was 6300 which 
Engineer of Tests Bob Pilcher felt  was too high.  He felt the A was 
actually 
in the 5300 horsepower  range and that the dynamometer car's recording 
mechanism was in  error.  The A was not a Y "modded for speed".  The only 
feature  the A shared with the Y was the tender (and maybe the electical 
system,  and stuff like that).
One has to be careful tossing "facts" around  among folks who don't know 
much 
about the N&W.  They're like  football players who pick up a fumble and run 
with  it.
EdKing
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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:17 PM
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Subject:  Re: Y Class, Etc
Query:  "Again the A class was essentially a Y  modded for speed . . ."   
The 
boilers (the most important part  of a steam loco, I'm finally beginning to 
realize) were very different -  5500 HP or so for a Y6 and 7000 HP or so 
for 
an A; also very different in  design, particularly, the fireboxes.
pete groom
On Jun 27, 2013, at  7:19 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>  
wrote:
> There was purpose behind designs, the Big Boy was meant  to tackle 
Sherman 
> Hill, it has larger drivers for speed not to just  get over the grades 
but 
> out west is a lot of land to cover and get  over it as fast as possible.
>
> N&W had numerous tough grades  and perhaps harder curves, speed was not 
> exactly the big handle to  get over its grades than to get as much 
tonnage 
> over as possible,  double heading and pushers a common scene on the N&W.
> Again the A  class was essentially a Y modded for speed and larger 
drivers 
> for the  not so mountaneous and level routes for speed, but they were put 
> on  the plodding Y6 runs as well.
>
> The railroads had their engines  made -their- way for -their- purposes.
>
> The DM&IR had their  yellowstones and were more powerful than the big 
boys, 
> why...heavy  ore trains, which can be far heavier than any coal train.
>
>  -Lynn-
> . .  .
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