Need help with a RR preservation emergency

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I would suggest contacting Virginia Department of Historic Resources to ascertain what staff member is conducting the review and then make known your opinion to that staff member via e-mail or regular mail. If this undertaking is being reviewed as part of Section 106 project reviewed, public participation is an important component of the Sec 106 process.

Joe Schuchman

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   2. N&W models for 1957 layout (NW Mailing List)
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 There has been a request,below, made to the Old Dominion Chapter of the NRHS.  Don't know if anybody on the list could help.


Alan Cox






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 From: kimyoungmarshall77 at gmail.com
To: membership at odcnrhs.org
Sent:  1/24/2014 8:05:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
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I received the message below earlier today. I have no  information which
might help this gentleman. If any of you do, you may  contact him directly or
send it to me and I'll forward  it.

Thanks!

Kim



From: Charles Pool  <charles_pool at msn.com>
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Subject: Need help with a RR  preservation emergency
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Dear Old Dominion Chapter  members,

Could your members possibly help us with a RR preservation  emergency?

You have probably heard about the proposal to  build an amphitheater below
the War Memorial.  This amphitheater  would not only damage the canal by
lowering the tow path embankment, but  the railroad tracks on the tow path
would be removed also.  These  railroad tracks were the Tredegar Branch of the
Richmond and Danville  Railroad that connected the Tredegar Iron Works with
Old Dominion Iron and  Nail on Belle Isle.  The stone pylons are still in the
James River  for the railroad bridge that connected Tredegar with the iron
works on  Belle Isle.

The amphitheater site below the canal is all on  the National Register of
Historic Places as part of the Tredegar Historic  Site.   We are beside
ourselves that Venture Richmond is  proposing to needlessly destroy the surviving
Tredegar Branch railroad at  the Tredegar Historic Site.

As you know, the Tredegar Iron Works  made railroad tracks and spikes, and
it is our belief that these tracks on  the canal tow path may actually have
been made at Tredegar, which was in  business until 1936.  Would there be
any surviving records  from the Richmond and Danville Railroad that would
indicate with whom they  were contracting to make their railroad tracks?  Is
there any way to  determine from examining the tracks where they were made?

The  amphitheater project is currently being reviewed by the Va. Department
of  Historic Resources, and we feel that it would make a very big
difference  if we could document that the tracks were made at Tredegar!

Thanks  so much,

Charles Pool
(804)  788-0359


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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:12:48 -0500
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Re: Models for N&W's HO display layout.

Jimmy Lisle and I have been trying to find out more about professional model builder George Stock.

>From this post it looks like there were two of each steam model made for the display layout.  My theory is that there was a backup for each locomotive operating on the layout and one set by George Stock and the other set built by Tenshodo.

http://nwhs.org/mailinglist/2014/20140120.6.jpg

I believe the A and J in this photo to be the work of George Stock.
http://nwhs.org/mailinglist/2014/20140120.3.jpg

The detailing is a little sparse on these models.  The A lacks steps on the pilot face.  The smoke box front appears to be a turning rather than a casting.  On the J the boiler hand rail does not look like the railing on the Japanese built PFM models from 1960-61.  By enlarging the photo the J looks to be hand lettered.  George Stock was known for exquisite hand lettering.

I consulted my copy of  "Brown Book of Brass Locomotives" and found that in 1957 Tenshodo custom made for N&W one each of an A, J, and S1, all factory painted and imported through Pacific Fast Mail.  So these might be the only A and J ever made by Tenshodo.  However from 1963 to 1970 Tenshodo made 511 C&O C-15 class.  The boxes they came in were labelled C&O/N&W since N&W was the buyer of the C&O 0-8-0's.  The later production runs of PFM A's were built by Atlas/Asahi and the J's were by Toby.

To confound things, ModelTrains.com has two PFM J's for sale, one painted and one unpainted.  Curiously the painted model has a Tenshodo gearbox cover.
http://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/052116/HO-Brass-Model-Train-CROWN-United-N-W-Norfolk-Western-Streamlined-J-4-8-4-Nice

As for the GP9 units Tenshodo made a few hundred between 1955 and 1961.  They were factory painted in batches of 5 to 50 for various roads.  However in 1957, one unit was produced in N&W paint.


>From what Jimmy Lisle has discovered, there are very few people who remember George Stock.  But this does add a little to the history of N&W's HO layout.


--Rick Morrison







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Given the role of the R&D in the Civil War, I suggest  contacting the
Museum of the Confederacy there in Richmond.

Aubrey Wiley

You are  invited to visit these blogs:
VIRGINIAN RAILWAY Heritage  Trail:
http://virginianrailwayheritagetrail.blogspot.com/
Wiley Railroad Relic Garden:_  http://junkmanwiley.blogspot.com/_
(http://junkmanwiley.blogspot.com/)
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