NW-Mailing-List Digest, Driver quartering?
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When I was working at Shaffers Crossing roundhouse in 1950, some of the
older machinists told me that when the N&W acquired the PRR K3's (that
became N&W E-3's) in 1930, they had trouble setting the valves --- or
possibly performing some similar type work -- until someone (from
"headquarters") belatedly informed them that the PRR engines had LEFT HAND
lead.
Louis Newton
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> 1. Re: "Takin' Twenty with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon
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> 2. Re: Driver Quartering ? (NW Mailing List)
> 3. Re: Driver Quartering ? (NW Mailing List)
> 4. RE: Surviving N&W A Tank in WV (NW Mailing List)
> 5. Re: Driver Quartering ? (NW Mailing List)
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> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:26:41 -0400
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: "Takin' Twenty with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon
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> Skip,
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> Interesting that you would mention Sputnik. I was in the Signal Corps
> Research and Development Company at Ft. Monmouth, NJ, when Sputnik was
> launched, and I was one of a number of Signal Corps soldiers who were
> rushed to a radio directional finding station to track the satellite using
> radio direction finding equipment around the clock. Periodically, we
> would pick up the telephone and call in the coordinates to Washington so
> someone there could plot Sputnik's path. Times have certainly changed
> since those crude methods were used.
>
> Gordon
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> Subject: "Takin' Twenty with the Virginian Brethren by Skip Salmon
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> Last night, on the last Wednesday of winter this year, I had the pleasure
> of "Takin' Twenty" with seven of the Brethren and Friends of the Virginian
> Railway. We discussed the passing of some friends this week. Several
> remembered Virginian Signal Maintainer George Henry Lewis of Princeton and
> Hobert L. Scott, Jr. who served in both the Operating Department and
> Mechanical Departments of the N&W. Landon Gregory remembered Scott as
> Suptentendent at Crewe, VA and I remember Mr. Scott as Manager Motive
> Power. Both will be missed.
>
>
>
> I told the Brethren to be on the look out on DIY and HGTV for the
> "Salvage Dawgs" TV show for an upcoming episode involving the Mechanical
> Department of the Roanoke Chapter of the NRHS. They taped a session at our
> 9th Street Yard using some of the Chapter's equipment and "stuff" of
> Chapter members in this episode. The Black Dog Salvage 13th Street
> Roanoke antique store is also involved with the Virginian Station Project.
> More on this later.
>
>
>
> The Jewel from the Past, like those in a Hamden "Special Railway" 23
> jewel hunting case dust cover, is from October 25, 2007: "This month is
> the 50th anniversary of the Russian 'Sputnik' launch, the first satellite
> or Russian 'fellow traveller' that started the Space Race in October 1957.
> I asked the Brethren how they remembered it as they went on their normal
> duties on the VGN. Glen McLain, who was working at Sewells Point,
> remembered a lot of his friends who were going to W and M fabricating
> radios to listen to the beeps.
>
> Jimmy Whittaker remembered hearing that when the Sputnik made its pass
> over the area every 96 minutes, people's garage doors would go up and
> down."
>
>
>
> I told the Brethren about Gordon Hamilton's power point talk tonight at
> the regular meeting of the Roanoke Chapter NRHS at the O. Winston Link
> Museum at 7:30 PM. All are invited to hear about "Railroads, Raids and
> Ruin, Building to Big Lick and Beyond" If you are in the area come join
> us and hear Gordon's presentation.
>
>
>
> I passed around a list of 20 "Ponderisms" and asked the Brethren to pick
> their favorite one. Landon Gregory picked number 11, "How is it one
> careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start
> a campfire". He then proceeded to tell us about when he was about 9 on
> his father's tobacco farm in Callens, VA and made himself a cigar out of
> freshly cured tobacco but could not get it lit with a whole box of
> matches.
>
>
>
> Since St. Patrick's Day was last Monday I have this for our Irish
> friends: A Texan walks into a pub in Ireland and gives this challenge:
> "I'll give 500 American dollars to anybody in here who can drink 10 pints
> of Guinnes back to back. The room is quiet, and no one takes up the
> Texan's offer. One man even leaves. Thirty minutes later the same
> gentleman, who left, shows back up and taps the Texan on the sholder and
> says I'll take the challenge. He then downs 10 pints of Guinnes in a row.
> The other pub patrons cheer as the Texan sits in amazement. The Texan
> then gives the Irishman the $500 and askes him "I do need to know where
> you went for the 30 minutes". The Irrishman replies, "Oh, I had to go to
> the pub down the street to see if I could do it first".
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>
>
> Time to pull the pin on this one!
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>
>
> Departing Now from V248,
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>
> Skip Salmon
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> DVIX
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> AFAIK, the only engines on the N&W with left hand lead were the ex-PRR E-3
> Pacifics. N&W went along with everybody else and used right hand lead.
>
> EdKing
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> Were there any N&W steam locos that used what I have been told was the
> Pennsy quartering of drivers? It is my understanding that the N&W method
> was that the right side driver led the left side driver. Where the
> Pennsy method was the left side driver led the right side driver. Is
> this correct?
>
> Jimmy Lisle
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> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT)
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> Jimmy:
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> My understanding is the same as yours; also, that "right side lead" was by
> far the most common. I have no idea why. Theoretically, it shouldn't
> matter, should it?
>
> This would lead to the suspicion that the ex-PRR K-3s that became the N&W
> E-3s would have been left hand lead, but that's speculation only.
>
> Dave Phelps
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> In a message dated 3/20/2014 10:24:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:
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> Were there any N&W steam locos that used what I have been told was the
> Pennsy quartering of drivers? It is my understanding that the N&W method
> was that the right side driver led the left side driver. Where the
> Pennsy method was the left side driver led the right side driver. Is
> this correct?
>
> Jimmy Lisle
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> Zac,
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> I remember that topic on RYPN and I'm not sure the poster ever came back
> to
> discuss any further. A location would be nice though. Probably one of the
> only original A tanks built remaining if I am right?
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> Jeff Lisowski
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> If so, I would assume that the E3's used the Pennsy system, since they
> were ex PRR K3's.
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> Jim Nichols
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> Were there any N&W steam locos that used what I have been told was the
> Pennsy quartering of drivers? It is my understanding that the N&W method
> was that the right side driver led the left side driver. Where the
> Pennsy method was the left side driver led the right side driver. Is
> this correct?
>
> Jimmy Lisle
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