Subject: Re: 500 Series Pacific's scrapping
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Dad's notes say 578 was donated 2-59
Jim Nichols
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Subject: Subject: Re: 500 Series Pacific's scrapping
Jim,
That date of 12-58 for 563 lines up with the scene we have of a
500 series engine going through
Batavia, OH on film. The date was Jan. 1959. There were countless
N&W engines going to a scrap dealer or
two west of Cincinnati on the old NYC line west of Riverside. We even
have scenes of a Virginian engine, several 1200's,
K1, and K2a's. In fact #100 is seen several times going on this line
to scrap(chased). Countless Y class engines, and even #325
went through along with a bunch of 0-8-0's.
So back to the 500's. When was 578 retired, and when did it go
to Ohio Railway Museum?
One more thing about engine scrapping....yes there was a place in
Portsmouth around New Boston, and a friend of mine saw 613 parts
laying around after coming back from the 1959 NRHS convention. In our
film we see 601 in standby, and 613 in the deadline during a Jan 1959
visit. We also see 1232 in a 1958 scene at Portsmouth, and later dead
in tow at Batavia, headed to scrap. That engine was significant cause
it pulled the last steam time freight out of Cincinnati(Clare yard),
in 1956.
Greg
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> Hey Guys,
> I'm post on behalf of a friend of mine. His Great Uncle R. H. Witt at
> some point was a station agent on N&W and it is assumed he worked at
> Waynesboro at some point. So the question is, can anybody or does
> anybody find/have a seniority roster for N&W agents (The Valley line
> to
> be exact) for say the 30s/40s/50s. Would this type of this possibly be
> in the archives? Were looking for mainly info on where all he
> worked. It
> is known that R.H. Witt's brother was the last agent at the C&O
> Greenwood station, and his nephew (my friends uncle) was the last
> agent
> at the C&O Crozet station. But it is know for fact that R.H. Witt
> was a
> N&W guy.
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> Thanks,
> Nathan on behalf of D.P. Witt
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> According to my father's notes, 563 was retired 12-58. I have no
> other information, so don't know where the scrapper was; but most
> engines that went west ended up at Friedmans Scrap Yard in
> Portsmouth. Why one would go west through Batavia is a mystery. BTW:
> 563 and 578 were the last ones (by a long shot).
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> Jim Nichols
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> Between 1958-60 how many N&W pacifics would have been left to scrap.
> We have a movie clip of one coming through Batavia headed west,
> presumably to scrap.
> However, 578 went to Columbus.? As I recall back in 1957 we rode
> that trip from Bluefield with
> 563 and 578, so I was wondering if those were the last two and
> perhaps the one we saw was 563?
> Does anyone know where these pacifics were in fact scrapped, and did
> 578 travel on the Peavine(unlikely)?
> Greg Scholl
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>> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 10:36:24 -0400
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>> Hi,
>> ? I may have asked this before, but can someone tell me what was the
>> last use of steam on the Powhatan Arrow, especially from Cincinnati.
>> I am going through some recent transfers of 8mm films and working
>> info
>> for the clips.? We have a shot of my dad getting on the last run a
>> Batavia,Ohio,
>> and the photographer notes August 1958.? I was under the impression
>> it
>> was July!!
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>> I always thought July, but later became aware that a J occasionally
>> filled in for the diesels during the fall (east of Roanoke). I
>> can't say about Cincinnati, however.
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>> Jim Nichols
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>> Hi,
>> ?? I may have asked this before, but can someone tell me what was
>> the?
>> last use of steam on the Powhatan Arrow, especially from Cincinnati.
>> I am going through some recent transfers of 8mm films and working
>> info?
>> for the clips.? We have a shot of my dad getting on the last run a?
>> Batavia,Ohio,
>> and the photographer notes August 1958.? I was under the impression
>> it?
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>> Today was a big day for the Roanoke Junction project.
>>
>> Norfolk Southern switched off the old color position lights (CPLs)
>> and turned on the new signals. CPLs were coming down with amazing
>> speed.
>>
>> Two main line tracks were cut and "thrown" into new alignments to
>> eliminate those S-curves that have been around since the steam days.
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>> For those watching on the railcams, here's what you couldn't see.
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>> Ron,
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>> Thanks very much for the great coverage of the Randolph St. track &
>> signal swap. I understand the improvements were necessary, but, at
>> the same time, it is sad to see all the old tracks and signals
>> disappear.
>>
>> Jeff Sanders
>> On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:56 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
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>> Today was a big day for the Roanoke Junction project.
>>
>> Norfolk Southern switched off the old color position lights (CPLs)
>> and turned on the new signals. CPLs were coming down with amazing
>> speed.
>>
>> Two main line tracks were cut and "thrown" into new alignments to
>> eliminate those S-curves that have been around since the steam days.
>>
>> For those watching on the railcams, here's what you couldn't see.
>>
>> http://www.nwhs.org/mailinglist/2014/RkeJct/20140406/
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>> Ron Davis
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>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Ron wrote:
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>>> Norfolk Southern switched off the old color position lights (CPLs)
>>> and
>>> turned on the new signals. CPLs were coming down with amazing speed.
>>
>> Thanks for the excellent but sad coverage. Whither the CPLs that have
>> been removed? Cycle Systems? Doled out to museums? Up for auction?
>> Left to rust under the 10th St. bridge?
>>
>> Is there anything left in Randolph Street tower or is it just a large
>> brick relay box these days?
>>
>> As to Amtrak -- are the "station" and siding going to replace the
>> Rail
>> Walk, around that green-roofed shelter? I know the city is on the
>> hook
>> to rebuild the culvert under the street through there, but will the
>> switch be stubbed in now as part of this work, or is that a "we'll do
>> that when the time comes" project?
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>> Bruce in Blacksburg
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