Bristol Line

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Thu Apr 9 14:41:17 EDT 2015 

The "Bristol Line" has "officially" been known as the "Pulaski District" for 
many years.

For example, in the November 1956 List of Officers, Agents and Stations --  
long before the Virginian merger -- it was referred to (p. 13) as the 
PULASKI DISTRICT.

Louis Newton

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> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 13:07:39 +0000 (UTC)
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> I think the "District" lingo (e.g. "Pulaski District") made its appearance 
> after the December 1959 merger with the Virginian.
>
> Theretofore, territorial terminology for the Radford Division's routes had 
> been "Main Line" and "Bristol Line." But when that portion of the VGN New 
> River Division, extending between Kellysville and "South" Roanoke, was 
> incorporated into the Radford Division, a third territory was added. 
> Someone came up with the nomenclatures "Christiansburg District," "Pulaski 
> District" and "Whitethorne District."
>
> So, if you want to be a real, ontologically true-to-the-tradition 
> railroader, just refuse to use the term "Pulaski District." Call it the 
> Bristol Line.
>
> A decade ago I did some searching and see how far back the term "Bristol 
> Line" went. About the best and most consistent sources I could research 
> were the Annual Reports. And in those, I think I found the term "Bristol 
> Line" back to around 1900, or slightly there-before. If I recall 
> correctly...
>
> It's time for a Commercial. (Or call it a "Rant," if you like.) The purity 
> of the vocabulary has become increasingly polluted. Some people now call 
> Engines "units," and apparently do not know any better. The news media 
> bozos call Railroads "train companies," and they call Enginemen and 
> Conductors "train operators." All He-Men of the Rails, cease and desist 
> such nefarious neologisms, and use the classical vocabulary of our 
> forefathers ! Away with all such weenie-talk !
>
> -- abram burnett
> (such a curmudgeon that he still uses the telegraph...)
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> Information about the NWHS annual convention (June 17-21 in Marion, 
> Ohio)is
> available online at the Norfolk & Western Historical Society website (
> nwhs.org).  Please look a both the Convention tab and the new eTaf. 
> Online
> registration is available now.
>
> Yes, we have a great tour planned.  There will be a banquet.  We have a
> non-rail tour planned.  There will be a model/photo contest. And, of
> course, a number of high-quality clinics.
>
> Also, on our last scouting trips we averaged 4-6 trains per hour passing 
> by
> the Marion depot--the site of our convention activities.
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> Please come. I believe that you'll have a good time and learn a lot.
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> Frank Bongiovanni
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> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Bristol Line
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> I'm surprised that you did not cite one of my most "like to dislike" 
> railroad misnomers, which is almost universally used by news media when 
> referring to railroad "tankers" carrying crude oil, etc.
>
> Gordon Hamilton
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>  From: NW Mailing List
>  To: N&W Mailing List
>  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 9:07 AM
>  Subject: Re: Bristol Line
>
>
>  I think the "District" lingo (e.g. "Pulaski District") made its 
> appearance  after the December 1959 merger with the Virginian.
>
>
>  Theretofore, territorial terminology for the Radford Division's routes 
> had been "Main Line" and "Bristol Line."  But when that portion of the VGN 
> New River Division, extending between Kellysville and "South" Roanoke, was 
> incorporated into the Radford Division, a third territory was added. 
> Someone came up with the nomenclatures "Christiansburg District," "Pulaski 
> District" and "Whitethorne District."
>
>
>  So, if you want to be a real, ontologically true-to-the-tradition 
> railroader, just refuse to use the term "Pulaski District."  Call it the 
> Bristol Line.
>
>
>  A decade ago I did some searching and see how far back the term "Bristol 
> Line" went.  About the best and most consistent sources I could research 
> were the Annual Reports.  And in those, I think I found the term "Bristol 
> Line" back to around 1900, or slightly there-before.  If I recall 
> correctly...
>
>
>  It's time for a Commercial.  (Or call it a "Rant," if you like.)  The 
> purity of the vocabulary has become increasingly polluted.  Some people 
> now call Engines "units," and apparently do not know any better.  The news 
> media bozos call Railroads "train companies," and they call Enginemen and 
> Conductors "train operators."  All He-Men of the Rails, cease and desist 
> such nefarious neologisms, and use the classical vocabulary of our 
> forefathers !  Away with all such weenie-talk !
>
>
>  -- abram burnett
>  (such a curmudgeon that he still uses the telegraph...)
>
>
>  ===========================
>  Sent to You from my Telegraph Key
>      ... better than AT&T 4G LTE
>  ===========================
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 15:07:09 -0400
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> Perhaps not so much of a curmudgeon as desirous of clarity and precision 
> in
> speech.  Uncle Ed King has repeatedly reminded us that although electric
> locomotives and diesels are "units", steam locomotives are not.
>
> If one is tired of starting arguments over color, one could always start a
> discussion about the use of "mallet" when talking about a simple
> articulated.
>
> Now that said, we all know that sometimes local usage may vary.  And may
> vary over time.  There are people here in Cleveland that still refer to
> "The Big Four Line".  And there was an issue of Vintage Rails that 
> referred
> to the C&O's streamlined hudsons as "yellowbellies"--a term that no one in
> the COHS including retired C&O employees ever admitted to having heard
> before.
>
> If someone really wants to continue terminology discussions, we can chat
> about this, "battleship gons", and even pronunciation over beverages and
> steakburgers at the convention in Marion in June.  [subtle product
> placement]
>
> Frank Bongiovanni
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