Locomotive names
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Wed May 20 16:45:24 EDT 2015
I have followed this discussion with great interest, learning much along the way. I was used to calling the steam locomotives by their class designation when discussing them and always wondered about my father's use of the four hundreds, six hundreds 12 hundreds and the like. Dad grew up in Pembroke VA and had the chance for the N&W and Virginian to be part of his life.
One thread which I've picked upon and a chance statement concerns me, history buffs surrounding our roads are very concerned with the naming of locomotives, be it the "Spirit of Roanoke" or the "Warhorse" this distress is leading some to remove themselves from supporting the museum which houses these artifacts and the organization which is returning one to an operating condition.
We all have the option to fold our tents and go home if the situation does not appeal to us, my concern is that we will lose those voices who are best able to convey facts to those who have no direct knowledge.
While I don't know the player involved on a personal basis I'm sure that a well reasoned appeal from the historical society to more accurately portray the designation of these valuable pieces of history will be much better received than negative comments and I told you so's.
R.D. Williams
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:36:16 -0600
To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
Subject: Re: Locomotive names
From: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
I'm going to chime in with this. I was reading something the other
day about phrases and what not that are often mispronounced or
otherwise misconstrued. For example a lot of people say 'For all
intensive purposes' when it in fact is really supposed to be 'For
all intents and purposes' and if I recall correctly workhorse being
mistaken as warhorse was one of them. So perhaps someone in the
museum PR department has mistakenly thought it was Warhorse and not
Workhorse as it should be.
Nathan
On 5/20/2015 10:44, NW Mailing List
wrote:
Ron,
Here is my correspondence with Mike Allen of the Roanoke Times
(read from bottom up):
"Hi,
James, just following up. Museum officials stand by what
they told me about the 2156 nickname. However, I will keep
in mind for future stories that you and others who contacted
me don’t remember such a name ever being used.
Mike
Allen
Arts
& Extras columnist
The
Roanoke Times
From:
James Lisle
To: Allen, Mike
Subject: Re: N&W Warhorse...Nah!
You would
have done better asking an actual N&W man!!!
Jimmy
On 5/18/2015 5:44 PM, Allen, Mike
wrote:
Hey,
Jimmy, thanks for your note. The info about the “Warhorse”
nickname came from the transportation museum.
Mike
Allen
From:
James Lisle
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:23 PM
To: Allen, Mike
Subject: N&W Warhorse...Nah!
Mike,
There are many that would appreciate that you not use
the name "Warhorse" when referring to N&W locomotive
#2156! "Workhorse" maybe, or as the men that ran and built
them, they were just known as "Twenty One Hundreds"
(pronounced Hunerts to be more
precise).
Take care,
Jimmy Lisle
"
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On 5/19/2015 10:29 PM, NW Mailing
List wrote:
The "warhorse" label was generated by the Roanoke Times. Whether
they confused it with "workhorse" or simply added the adjective
to spice up the story I do not know.
I suggest we write letters to the Roanoke Times pointing out the
error.
Ron Davis
On 5/18/2015 12:30 PM, NW Mailing
List wrote:
More than 65 years ago, the N&W’s Class Y-6 was
referred to as the “the workhorse of the N&W”. That
is exactly what it was, a WORKHORSE. I don’t know where
this new term came from, but this needs to be stopped.
If the term Warhorse remains, it is a disservice to the
2156 and the old N&W.
The 2156 is a historical artifact and its appearance
and information should be accurate and authentic. As an
N&W historian, I cannot let this go by and be a part
in this new naming.
Bud Jeffries
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