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Continue to Ron Cochran on signal light at Rawl. The photo at Rawl is for switching out of the east end of the east yard.
-Jeff Hensley.
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Jeff Hensley <tkh613 at msn.com> wrote:
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> To Ron Cochran. The signal in question at Rawl was referred to as switching lights locally. There were several of these located thru out Williamson Yard. Before the use of radio communication these switching lights were used once the engineer was out of sight of hand signals by the ground crew on long pulls for switching. A crew member would operate the indication of the lights from a rotating switch mounted inside a metal call box mounted on a telephone pole next to the switching. The lights would indicate the direction the engine was to move. A yellow indication was to pull ahead. A stationary red was to stop. A flashing red was to back up. To "kick" cars alternating quick movement between between yellow and red was used. To slow down or "steady" to make a coupling the lights would be turn off until coupling was made then a red stop indication was displayed. This was old time railroading we used until handheld radio's began to be issued to individual crew members in the early 80's on Williamson yard.
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>> 1. Re: 611 (NW Mailing List)
>> 2. Video at Villamont (NW Mailing List)
>> 3. Signal questions 1 (NW Mailing List)
>> 4. 611 Ferry moves (NW Mailing List)
>> 5. color (NW Mailing List)
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>> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: 611
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>> I don't know about Youtube, but several videos have been posted to the Facebook pages of VMT and Fire Up 611!
>>
>> Marty Flick
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>> ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> Since I am out of town, will anyone be having any youtube videos on the
>>> journey of the 611. Thanks, Ted Cutler
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>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 03:46:01 -0400
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>> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Video at Villamont
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>> Here is a link to the video that I took of 611 at Villamont:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3mHYziwaxY&feature=em-upload_owner#action=share
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>> Jimmy Lisle
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>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 07:16:44 -0400
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>> Subject: Signal questions 1
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>> I've been looking at NW/NS pictures on http://www.railpictures.net and
>> noticed some things that raised questions in my mind that I am hopin y'all
>> can help explain. The first one has to do with a seemingly out-of-place
>> style switch.
>>
>> The image is http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=205246&nseq=26
>> and was taken at Rawl in 77. It shows a a traffic-light style signal
>> ostensibly governing the movements on the siding next to the main. This
>> signal looks more like something you'd see on the C&O, SOU or NKP than our
>> beloved CPLs, so what the heck is it doing here, deep in the heart of N&W
>> territory?
>>
>> Later, I ran across this image:
>> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=322030&nseq=28 with a somewhat
>> similar looking signal and the description mentions it as being an automatic
>> switch signal. I didn't recognize the term automatic switch, but wondered
>> if it was the same thing as a spring switch, so I Googled ?spring switch
>> signal? and was led to a copy of the law (code of federal regulation) that
>> established the requirements for signal protection of spring switch
>> installations (oh yes there is). Just for grins, I have included the
>> wording below because it brought such clarity to the situation :^)
>>
>> Hope you guys are able do a little better job of clearing things up.
>>
>> Jim Cochran
>>
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>> ? 236.14 Spring switch signal protection; requirements.
>>
>> *(a)* The indication of signal governing movements from siding to main
>> track with the current of traffic on track signaled for movements in only
>> one direction through a spring switch in automatic block signal territory
>> shall be not less restrictive than ?Proceed at Restricted Speed' when the
>> block, into which movements are governed by the signal, is occupied, and
>> shall be ?Stop? when the main track is occupied by a train approaching the
>> switch within at least 1,500 feet in approach of the approach signal
>> located stopping distance from the main track signal governing trailing
>> movements over switch, except that the indication may be caused to be less
>> restrictive if approach or time locking is used.
>>
>> *(b)* The indication of signal governing movements against the current of
>> traffic from the reverse main of main tracks to a single track, or signal
>> governing movements from a siding to a main track signaled for movements in
>> either direction, through a spring switch, in automatic block signal
>> territory, shall be not less restrictive than ?Proceed at Restricted Speed?
>> when the block, into which movements are governed by the signal, is
>> occupied by a preceding train, and shall be ?Stop? when the block on the
>> single track into which the signal governs is occupied by an opposing train.
>>
>> *(c)* The indication of signal governing movements against the current of
>> traffic from the reverse main of main tracks to a single track or signal
>> governing movements from a siding to a main track signaled for movements in
>> either direction through a spring switch in automatic block signal
>> territory shall be ?Stop? when the normal direction main track of the
>> double track or the single track signaled for movements in both directions
>> is occupied by a train approaching the switch within at least 1,500 feet in
>> approach of the approach signal located stopping distance from the main
>> track signal governing trailing movements over switch, except that
>> indication may be caused to be less restrictive if approach or time locking
>> is used.
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>> Subject: color
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>> Could someone pleases tell me the station color scheme N&W used from the
>> span of years between 1900 into the 1920's?
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>> Thank you very much.
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>> Aubrey Wiley
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>> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>> Saw two videos on YouTube today
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>> Tom Lewis
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>>> On May 31, 2015, at 12:09 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>>> I don't know about Youtube, but several videos have been posted to the Facebook pages of VMT and Fire Up 611!
>>>
>>> Marty Flick
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>>> ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>> Since I am out of town, will anyone be having any youtube videos on the
>>>> journey of the 611. Thanks, Ted Cutler
>>>
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>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 22:18:39 -0400
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>> Subject: Re: Video at Villamont
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>> Enjoyed! Thanks,
>> Charlie Long
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>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:46 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>>> Here is a link to the video that I took of 611 at Villamont:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3mHYziwaxY&feature=em-upload_owner#action=share
>>>
>>> Jimmy Lisle
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>> Subject: Re: VMT's Class J Trademark
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>> Let me state what I know about this topic.
>>
>> Having 611 back in operation has vastly increased the interest and
>> popularity in the locomotive.
>>
>> VMT and the FireUp 611 committee have invested a lot of money putting
>> 611 back into operating condition. To keep 611 in operating condition
>> will require even more money in the future.
>>
>> People and organizations who PROFIT from SELLING things (t-shirts,
>> pictures, coffee cups, calendars, books) associated with the 611 should
>> help support keeping it going. Read the next to last paragraph to see
>> the true targets of these trademarks - "mass-produced retail goods."
>>
>> Another target of this trademark are major corporations that may wish to
>> use 611's image in their advertising. Kohler and Mercedes(?) have done
>> so in the past. Would it not be great if a large corporation paid a
>> significant fee for rights to use 611 in their advertising?
>>
>> Note that those who are selling "small quantities" are simply asked to
>> e-mail an inquiry. To protect the trademark, everything falling under
>> the trademark must be properly licensed. Thus even those selling small
>> quantities must be licensed and acknowledge VMT's trademark. For those
>> falling in this "small quantity" category, the license fee if any will
>> be very small.
>>
>> If you are not selling anything, then none of this trademark stuff
>> applies to you. You can share photos with your friends and the Internet
>> with no problems.
>>
>> For books and publications, authors are asked to work with their
>> Virginia Rail Heritage Partners which includes NWHS and the Roanoke
>> Chapter NRHS. The partner organizations will be granted licenses to
>> cover the trademark. Thus there will be no impact on "The Arrow" or
>> "Turntable Times"
>>
>> It is my understanding that at this point an application has simply been
>> made for the trademarks. The applications may or may not be approved.
>> The items and images mentioned have passed some preliminary approval.
>>
>> Norfolk Southern is aware of VMT applying for this trademark and has no
>> objections to it.
>>
>> VMT is not looking to gouge folks, but simply wants those who benefit
>> and profit in big ways by having 611 running again to help keep it that way.
>>
>> Ron Davis
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