More on the Pocahontas image

Fri Sep 25 10:25:01 EDT 2015

This is just a guess, but is based on the fact that I don't remember seeing box express cars in the consist of the Pocahontas. You say the cars originated in Cincinnati and Chicago. Perhaps they came down the CNO&TP to Chattanooga and were put on the Tennessean there. If so, the cars returning on the Pelican might have gone back to Chattanooga on the Pelican. In other words, maybe the cars did not run on the N&W main between Walton and Cincinnati. Just a guess!
Jim Nichols  

     On Friday, September 25, 2015 5:56 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

 Rick,
Thanks for this interesting and helpful information.
Given your expertise demonstrated in your answer, you may be able to help me with a consist question I have been unable to answer. Between 1960 and 1964 I spent considerable time watching trains at Kemper St Station in Lynchburg. During that period No.46, The Tennessean, always has between two and five mail cars attached to its end coming through Lynchburg. These were taken off at Monroe and put on Southern No. 19, the mail only train that left Monroe about 6pm headed south.
My questions are:
1.  How did these mail cars get to Roanoke? As I recall they were from Cincinnati and Chicago. Some were "box express" cars and some were of the kind shown in the photo of No. 4 in Roanoke. While the most obvious answer is that they came to Roanoke on No. 4, I have not seen  pictures of No. 4 in Roanoke or points west with the box express cars. Further, I question if No 4 had the capacity to handle five of these mail cars (sometimes fewer) as well as its other consist.
2. By what trains did these cars make their return trip west? I believe they came north on Southern No. 30. (The Peach Queen), were left in Monroe around 2:30am and picked up by No. 41 (The Pelican) about 4 am.  for the trip west. But The Pelican went to Bristol and on south, so how did the cars get back to Cincinnati and Chicago.  The Powhatan Arrow was the next westbound train through Roanoke but we know the cars were not attached to this train (or so I think because I saw No. 25 in Roanoke and points west a number of times and never observed these cars in the consist).
Any insight you or anyone else can provide will be appreciated.  Thanks.

    Ray Smoot
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On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:20 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Rick is absolutely right. I am wiser now, and agree with everything he asaid.
Jim Nichols

On Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:39 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Re: The Pocahontas Image. Please look very carefully at the far left of the photo fromrailpictures.net.  In front of the class Pg coach is a BMf postal baggage with a shadowover the postal apartment.  Behind the Pg coach is a Pm coach which would be highly unusual for Trains 9 and 10.  That is why my logic tells me this is the Pocahontas. If anyone has any doubt about the postal car on the Pocahontas in 1954 check out these b&w photos.  The postal car always ran ahead of the first coach, baggage end forward. The fifth car in the Roanoke view is a Bmf postal baggage car scheduled Cincinnati to Norfolk.  Three of the storage mail cars came off in Roanoke. One went on to Lynchburg on train 10 (to Greensboro NC via Southern), the other to Petersburg in Train 8.  I will scan and submit separately train consist sheets for Train 4 as it existed in March 1954.  I also have sheets for Trains 9 and 10 if there is enough interest.  --Rick Morrison

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