Fwd: Re: Narrows Branch Question - Terminal Facilities at Narrows

NW Mailing List nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
Wed Jan 3 15:52:22 EST 2018 

Upon rereading my message below from yesterday I see that I had the 
directions wrong about sequence of the loco and car facilities.  That 
paragraph should read, "Another 1147 ft. east of the end of two tracks 
was the point of switch of a track leading to the loco and car 
facilities.  A second switch created two tracks into the facilities, 
which were from _west to east_, Storehouse, Tank, Shops, 30-ft 
Turntable, Car Shed.  The distance between points of switch of the 
facilities track on the main track was 875 ft."

Additionally, the turntable was represented on the drawing by a circle 
with "30" in it, and I described it as "30-ft. Turntable." Obviously, a 
30-ft. turntable would be too short for almost any locomotive, so I 
assume that it was Engineering's practice to define circles by their 
radii, making this a 60-ft. turntable.

I apologize for these errors and any confusion they may have caused.  I 
plan to fire my proofreader.

Gordon Hamilton



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Subject: 	Re: Narrows Branch Question - Terminal Facilities at Narrows
Date: 	Tue, 2 Jan 2018 18:54:02 -0500
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Abram,

Drawing HS-H10260 in the NWHS archives appears to confirm much of what 
you surmised about the NRH&W RR at Narrows. The drawing is not dated, 
but the main track is labeled "New River, Holston and Western R.R." and 
the database listing has a drawing revised date "1926-06-03"

The point of switch off the N&W Eastbound main track to NRH&W is shown a 
few feet west of N&W MP N334 (and 739.8 feet west of the west end of the 
N&W bridge over Wolf Creek), but strangely to me the zero mile post for 
the NRH&W  is located 209 ft. east of that point of switch (maybe that 
was the clearance point??).  Because the switch to NRH&W was facing 
point off the eastbound N&W track I assume that the end of the NRH&W at 
Bastion would be timetable _/east/_ of Narrows.  At least that is the 
way I have used directions on the NRH&W here.

Just 12.5 ft. east of the NRH&W zero mile post was another point of 
switch creating two tracks for 1249.5 ft, point of switch to point of 
switch.  A "Motor Car Ho." was located just east of the end of the two 
tracks.

Another 1147 ft. east of the end of two tracks was the point of switch 
of a track leading to the loco and car facilities.  A second switch 
created two tracks into the facilities, which were from east to west, 
Storehouse, Tank, Shops, 30-ft Turntable, Car Shed.  The distance 
between points of switch of the facilities track on the main track was 
875 ft.

Unfortunately, I don't have the answers to any of the other questions 
that you had about the NRH&W.

Gordon Hamilton

On 1/1/2018 6:25 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>
> As I understand it, the "Narrows Branch" came off the Main Line on a 
> facing point switch in the Eastbound main track, just west of the Wolf 
> Creek Bridge, west of Narrows depot. (All traces of it had been 
> obliterated by the time I hired in 1964.)
>
>
> The New River Holston & Western was operated as a self-standing 
> company from 1903 to 1919, which meant it had to have its own terminal 
> facilities at Narrows.  The problem is that from the switch in the N&W 
> Main Line, the first half mile of the branch is that the line lies on 
> the west bank of Wolf Creek around a big bluff, with no room for an 
> ash pit, water tank, coal wharf and turn table or wye.  The first flat 
> spot of land which would afford room for such facilities, and a few 
> tracks, is at the big curve in present Park Drive, coordinates 327.329 
> -80.8160, which is almost 6/10 mile from the NRH&W's junction switch 
> with the N&W.
>
>
> Does anyone know if this is, indeed, where the NRH&W had its terminal 
> facilities, yard tracks, engine service track and depot?   What became 
> of the old NRH&W depot at Narrows?
>
>
> Second question:  N&W took over the NRH&W in 1919.  Did the N&W 
> continue to work the branch with an engine and crew stationed 
> somewhere around Narrows, or did the engine and crew come out of some 
> other terminal (e.g. Radford) ?
>
>
> -- abram burnett
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