Pullman Service to New York via N&W

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Jim:

When we moved from Bluefield, VA to Long Island in July, 1953, we went out
of Bluefield, WV on the sleeper handled by Train 16.  I was always under
the impression that the sleeper was put on a Southern train in Roanoke, so
your statement that it went ACL (presumably from Petersburg) got me
scurrying to my copy of "NORFOLK AND WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY CONSIST OF ALL
MAIN LINE PASSENGER TRAINS", the March 15, 1954 edition one can purchase
from the NWHS Archives.

It confirms that as of its publication date the NY - Williamson sleeper was
exchanged with Trains 41/42 in Roanoke.  What you got from the April 1952
Official Guide may well indeed have been what was true then, but apparently
it changed between then and July 1953.

Regards,

Dave Phelps

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 6:09 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> At our recent convention in Spencer a member asked me what N&W
> trains/routes were used to provide Pullman service to New York.
>
> I consulted an April 1952 copy of Official Guide of the Railways.  Per
> this resource there were three N&W trains that  provided daily through
> Pullman service to New York.
>
> Trains No.1/2, referred to as the Shenandoah Valley Route, provided
> through Pullman service between Roanoke and New York. Additionally, there
> was through coach service between Roanoke and Harrisburg.  The sleeper and
> through coach would be routed at Hagerstown via the Pennsylvania Railroad.
> In April 1952 the Pullman was 10-6 or 10-1-1 per the Guide. Routing to New
> York on PRR was Hagerstown, Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Trenton, Newark and
> New York.
>
> Trains 15/16, the Cavalier, provided through Pullman service between
> Williamson and New York; this car was a 10/6; this car would be handled by
> ACL to Richmond, VA, then RF&P to Washington, DC where it would then be
> turned over the PRR
>
> Trains 21/22, the Cannon Ball, provided through Pullman service between
> Norfolk and New York, again using a 10/6 car; routed to ACL at Petersburg,
> RF&P at Richmond and PRR at Washington, DC
> ;
> The above reflects what was happening in early 1952; I do not know for how
> long these routings had been in effect, nor how long they continued.  I
> would imagine these routes were fairly consistent subject to time changes;
> there were probably additional sleepers added during peak travel times.
>
> My understanding is the three County Cars, as well as the Budd built
> sleepers, were used in the Pullman service between New York and Roanoke,
> Williamson and Norfolk; PRR would be supplying sleepers as well.
>
> Although the County Cars were originally to be assigned to the Shenandoah
> Valley route, there is photographic evidence that Budd built "Scioto
> County" was used on this route as well.
>
> Although I'm certain the consists were expected to include certain
> equipment, there is always the chance that other equipment was substituted
> or added depending on circumstances.
>
> Perhaps others have information to correct/supplement what I have put
> forth here.
>
> Jim Brewer
> Glenwood MD
>
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