6 wheel trucks

Mon Nov 26 14:57:51 EST 2018

Steve Summers researched the heck out of these for a clinic, and I have the
material somewhere, but I'm 95% certain that the H-14's were built after
the H-15's.  The H-15's are another in the long line of 50/52.5/55 ton two
bay hoppers; the H-14's were the second group of 70 ton three bays, several
years after the 70 ton 3 bay H-5's.  The H-14/H-34's are kind of a unique
VGN/N&W design, and as far as I know, even though we've had two different
postings on how to take an MDC or Atlas TrainMan 70 ton 3 bay and convert
it to the H14/34 hopper, an accurate model has not been done in kit or RTR.

Frank Bongiovanni

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Don’t recall the VGN H-15s.  Do recall the H-14s; I was working at
> Shaffers Crossing Shop Track at the date of the merger and was drafted for
> a couple of jobs at other locations.  My impression was that the H-14 class
> was in existence before the merger and that 500 more were built after the
> merger as N&W H-34s.  I don’t recall the numbers.
>
> Ed King
>
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>
> Ed,
> Virginian drawings show 1000 H-15, 55-T hoppers built by Bethlehem Steel
> from Mar. thru June 1953, numbers 26000-26999.
> Then, from May thru Oct 1956 Virginian built at Princeton, 500 total
> hoppers, H-15a nos. 27000-27299 and H-15b nos. 27300-27499.
> I know the H-14, 70-T hoppers were built in Princeton, but for some reason
> I do not have that drawing.
> Since I do not have the H-14 drawing I can't prove it, but something tells
> me, and I don't know why, that the H-14 hoppers were actually built after
> the the H-15a&b hoppers. That would explain the left over material for more
> H-14s after the merger.
> Your thoughts?
>
> Jeff Sanders
>
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2018, 7:51:35 AM EST, NW Mailing List <
> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
> Jeff -
>
> The Virginian cars were 70-ton hoppers classed H-14.  At the time of the
> merger, material was on hand at Princeton to build 500 more cars; they were
> N&W class H-34.  At least, this was the story at the time.
>
> Ed King
>
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>
> Interesting that the Class was H-15. The Virginian had just built class
> H-15 hoppers in Princeton in the late '50s. In fact, I believe the N&W
> continued to build cars in Princeton after the merger, under the new N&W
> numbers and class. N&W wasted no time in reclassifying Vgn equipment to fit
> its system. I'm betting all that was probably settled before merger day.
>
> Jeff Sanders
>
> On Saturday, November 24, 2018, 6:47:46 PM EST, NW Mailing List <
> nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
> I only missed the class by two . . .
>
> EdKing
>
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>
> Except that the  class was H-15, the rest sounds good to me.
>
> Gordon Hamilton
>
> On 11/23/2018 10:19 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> > Around 1961 or so N&W designed a massive 150-ton hopper car (class
> > H13?) to use short-wheelbase Buckeye 6-wheel trucks like those used on
> > Y-6 tenders. They started construction and ordered the trucks from the
> > Buckeye people and were advised that the short-wheelbase item was no
> > longer available.  In order that the project not be scrapped on the
> > spot, they had to go to United Iron and Metal at Roanoke which was
> > scrapping Y-6bs at the time and buy a pair of tender trucks, which
> > reportedly cost $25,000.
> >
> > I saw the car a couple of times; it really stood out in a coal train.
> >
> > Gordon, can you correct any mistakes I have made?
> >
> > Ed King
> >
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> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 3:48 AM
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> > Subject: 6 wheel trucks
> >
> > Recent discussions with a friend on the VGN battleship gondola brought
> > to memory of a 6 wheel hopper I thought was VGN, but could also be N&W.
> > There were either photos or drawings in the ARROW, which I have gone
> > through and found the VGN car, but not the style I am remembering.
> > A friend of mine had his father cut the shape out of wood some years
> > ago. I got 6 wheel trucks for them, but never finished them.
> > Does anyone know or remember these cars, and where the drawing/photo was?
> > I know with all the talk of the manufacturers closing down, and really
> > putting the squeeze on available models, has anyone considered 3D
> > printing?
> > I have quite a few hoppers, excavators, front end loaders ect that
> > were 3D printed. I know they are not perfect and need extra attention,
> > but after putting micro-train trucks under them, they look quite nice
> > and work fine. 3D printing could offer unlimited items to manufacture,
> > that otherwise would never be made except for scratch building.
> >
> > PS in the March/April 2006 issue of the ARROW, mine came with 2 front
> > covers, so if your issue is missing its front cover, I have it.
> >
> > Jeff Wood
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