PRR_Consist_2629 - N&W, SAL, and SOU connections from New York City

Sat Dec 29 10:29:18 EST 2018

Excellent Dr. Scheer! Being a junior at Radford High School, I may have
seen this one go through!
Charlie Long
Lynchburg
(the one in Virginia)

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 6:38 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

> Continuing with our review of the PRR consists for Monday, December 7,
> 1964, we first have PRR # 154, the NB Embassy, out of Washington DC en
> route to NY.  This train departed Washington on time at 5:00 PM EST.  All
> cars originated at Washington DC.  The last three cars would be set off at
> Baltimore since they were the through cars for the Washington section of
> the General.  Don’t look for the eleventh car-I did and could not find it!
>
> The first seven cars were all destined for NY.  PRR 1985 was a X29 box
> express that was carrying storage mail.  No amount given.  PRR 1495 (ex N&W
> Hampden-Sydney College) and 1497 (ex N&W Duke University) were both P85M
> snack bar coaches with each car having 72 reclining seats, a six seat
> lounge area, and a snack bar located directly across the aisle from the
> lounge seats.  They were built by Budd in 1950 as plan 9523 10-6 sleepers
> for the N&W.  The cars were taken out of Pullman lease and they were sold
> to the PRR in early 1964.  The PRR then sent the cars back to Budd where
> they were rebuilt into snack bar coaches.  PRR 1570 was a P85H “Congo”
> coach with 60 reclining seats and a separate 14 seat smoking lounge.  This
> car was built by Budd in 1951.  PRR 1515 (ex Jeffery Scaife ex Piqua Inn)
> was a P85L lightweight coach with 64 reclining seats and a 12 seat smoking
> lounge.  It was built by Budd in 1949 as a plan 9513 21 roomette sleeper
> for the PRR.  The car was taken out of Pullman lease in early 1963, and
> after the car had its interior stripped out at Altoona, it was sent back to
> Budd where it was rebuilt into a coach.  Next we have PRR 7158 Sycamore
> Falls, a parlor (room) bar lounge.  This car was built by P-S in 1940 as a
> plan 4086A 6 double bedroom buffet lounge sleeper for assignment to the
> PRR.  The car was taken out of Pullman lease in May 1964 at which time the
> bedding was removed.  The double bedrooms were designated as day rooms, and
> they, along with seats in the lounge area, were sold as daytime parlor
> space.  The 21 seat lounge area became a first class lounge and a single
> attendant used the buffet to prepare beverages and to serve packaged
> snacks.  It was followed by PRR 7141 Paul Revere, a PP85 light weight
> parlor car with 29 reclining, revolving chairs and a single drawing room
> that could seat five.  It was built by Budd in 1951.
>
> The last three cars would all be set off at Baltimore, where they would be
> added to the consist of PRR # 549, the connection for the WB General.  PRR
> H.J, Heinz(ex John Pitcairn ex Towanda Rapids) was a plan 4140 10-6 sleeper
> built by P-S in 1948.  It was destined for Chicago, as was the following
> coach.  PRR 4102 was a P85BR lightweight coach with 44 fully reclining
> seats and large end of car rest room/lounge areas.  It was built by the PRR
> at Altoona in late 1946 using a kit supplied by ACF.  The last car would
> only go as far as Harrisburg, where it would be set off and then spend the
> night, returning that morning in the consist of PRR # 548 back to
> Washington.   PRR 1490 (ex N&W Augusta County)was a P85M snack bar coach
> with 72 reclining seats, a six seat lounge area, and a snack bar.  Built by
> Budd in 1949 as a plan 9523 10-6 sleeper for the N&W, it shared the same
> history as did PRR 1495 and 1497 described above.
>
> I always wondered why PRR # 154 did not have a dining car, especially
> since it ran in prime dining hours.  Then it came to me-if there was a
> dining car, then passengers on the General connection would try to have
> dinner and the fast arrival at Baltimore would preclude having a meal.
> Rather than deal with the potential delays, PRR just ran with snack bar
> coaches on this train, and thus the problem went away.
>
>
> Our next consist is that of PRR # 155, the SB Embassy, out of NY en route
> to Washington DC.  This train also carried the through cars for RF&P/SAL #
> 9, the Palmland, and Southern/N&W # 41, the Pelican (whose beak surely
> could hold more than its belly can).  This train departed NY on time at
> 7:30 PM EST, and all cars originated at NY.  The first nine cars were all
> destined for Washington DC.  PRR 7138 Baron DeKalb was a PP85 lightweight
> parlor car with 29 reclining, revolving chairs and a single drawing room
> that could seat five.  It was built by Budd in 1951.  PRR 7155 Colonial
> Scouts was a parlor (room) bar lounge car.  It was built by P-S in 1949 as
> a plan 4132 1 drawing room 3 double bedroom buffet lounge sleeper.  The car
> was taken out of Pullman lease in May 1964 at which time the bedding was
> removed.  The double bedrooms became day rooms, and they, along with the
> drawing room, and some lounge seats, were sold as day time parlor space.
> The 27 seat lounge became a first class only area, and a single attendant
> used the buffet to prepare beverages and to serve packaged snacks.  PRR
> 4525 was a D85AD single unit dining car with 48 table seats and an all
> electric kitchen.  The car was built by Budd in 1952 and it was fitted with
> twin diesel powered alternator sets that provided power for the kitchen
> appliances, along with the car lighting and AC.  PRR 1487 (ex N&W Roanoke
> College), 1488 (ex N&W Emory and Henry College), and 1491 (ex N&W Mingo
> County) were all PRR P85M cars.  The first two cars were built in 1949, and
> had 72 reclining seats and a 12 seat smoking lounge, while the third car
> was built in 1950 and it had 72 reclining seats, a six seat lounge area,
> and a snack bar.  They were all built by Budd as plan 9523 10-6 sleepers
> for the N&W.  The cars were all taken out of Pullman lease and then were
> sold to the PRR in early 1964.  The PRR then sent the cars back to Budd
> where they were rebuilt into coaches.  PRR 1531 (ex Ravenna Inn) was a P85L
> lightweight coach with 64 reclining seats and a 12 seat smoking lounge.  It
> was built by Budd in 1949 as a plan 9513 21 roomette sleeper for the PRR.
> The car was taken out of Pullman lease in early 1963 and after having its
> interior stripped out at Altoona, it was sent back to Budd where it was
> rebuilt into a coach. PRR 1665 and 1618 were both P70FBR heavyweight
> coaches with each car having 72 non reclining, high back seats.  Both cars
> were rebuilt at Altoona in 1948.
>
> The next five cars would all be added to the consist of RF&P/SAL # 9, the
> Palmland, at Washington DC.  SAL 831 was a pre-war American Flyer coach
> built by P-S at Worcester MA in 1936.  This car was reconfigured by the SAL
> as a divided coach seating 74.  It had 58 reclining seats and 16 non
> reclining bulkhead seats.  This car was destined for Hamlet NC.  SAL 811
> was a 68 seat heavyweight coach.  It was built by ACF in 1926 and was
> fitted with Pullman mechanical AC in 1934. It was further modernized by the
> SAL in 1936-37 as a divided coach with smoking and non smoking sections.
> At that time it received 54 fully reclining seats and 14 non reclining
> bulkhead seats.  This car was destined for Miami.  Union Pacific Western
> Hills was a plan 9004 12 roomette 4 double bedroom sleeper built by ACF in
> 1949. Its double bedrooms and roomettes were built to the pre-war style,
> while the mechanical and electrical systems were fully post war, including
> fluorescent lighting.  Most likely this was to match the 1942 6-6-4
> sleepers in the plan 4099 series.  This car would be rebuilt by Pullman in
> June 1965 as a plan 6009 11 double bedroom sleeper with 7 modern bedrooms
> replacing the 12 roomettes, while the four original bedrooms remained as
> built.  It would be renamed Sun Isle.  This car was destined for Miami.
> PRR Athens was a plan 9503 10-6 sleeper built by Budd in 1949 for joint
> service on SAL trains.  It was destined for Hamlet NC.  PRR Stoney Rapids
> was a plan 4140 10-6 sleeper built by P-S in 1948.  It was destined for
> Norfolk VA. The car would be set off at Richmond, where it would be added
> to the consist of ACL # 29.  That train would take it to the N&W station at
> Petersburg VA, where it await the arrival of N&W # 16-22, the Cavalier,
> which would take it to Norfolk.
>
> The last two cars would be added to the consist of Southern/N&W # 41, the
> Pelican at Washington DC.  Southern Spring Valley was a plan 4153C 14-4
> built by P-S in 1949.  It was destined for Chattanooga TN.  Southern
> Rapidan River was a plan 4140 10-6 sleeper built by P-S in 1949 for
> assignment to the Crescent.  It was destined for Bristol VA/TN.  Coach
> passengers for the Pelican had to change cars at Washington DC.
>
> Prepared by Michael W Savchak PE <argon11 at comcast.net>.
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