boiler explosions and the like.

Wed Apr 3 14:29:35 EDT 2019

Three of the wartime USTC 2-8-0s had catastrophic  boiler failures which led to casualties. They only had one water gauge which seemed to be the root  cause of all of the problems. 

Fusible plugs caused some nasty injuries from burning coal, ash, steam and hot water venting through the firebox door. The ultra-high pressure Royal Scot loco (Fury) had a tube failure and caused death and injury when this happened. Steam locos were truly mobile pressure bombs.

Regards

Phil Mortimer.  

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Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 6:23 PM
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Subject: Re: boiler explosions and the like.

In Britain loco boilers were fitted with fusable plugs, these melted before crown sheet failure, exhausting steam safely.  I could never understand why these were not used in the US.

Regards,

Richard Hood

England 

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, 16:24 NW Mailing List, <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Regarding graphic descriptions of boiler blowup aftermath's:

The older newspapers were especially graphic with their details
regarding boiler events and their aftermath. A head here, an arm,
there; and so forth. They didn't hold back much way back when.
Somewhere around the turn of the century from 1899-1900 they got a lot
more tame and less lurid in their details. That said, whenever a
locomotive boiler went ka-plooey, anyone anywhere near the thing
visited the promised land. Ed King's excellent descriptions of what
takes place with a fraction of a second were quite sobering and worth
rereading whenever you expect to get anywhere near one of these
things. That was in an older Trains Magazine. He doesn't go into the
graphic nature of what happens to a human body, but does describe what
occurs at the cab and crown sheet. Kind of keeps your mind on an
honest track that way.

The descriptions elsewhere of the C&O Allegheny at Hinton are
particularly noteworthy from a C&O HS descriptive point of view:
picture this - the boiler of that engine became a momentary rocket
ship until its fuel was expended and in those brief moments, it blew
several hundred feet in the air and landed 100 yards ahead of the now
empty shell on an empty frame. Think about the force that entails
.......... or maybe not.

Bob Cohen

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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 03:27:11 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: Re: VGN #800
>> Message-ID: <mailman.429.1554202092.14038.nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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>>  Ed,
>> I had the privilege of befriending Mr. Weatherly, apparently about a
>> decade
>> after you were there. After classes at the community college I would slip
>> down to JK and visit with Mr. Weatherly. I spent many hours hanging on
>> the
>> bottom half of the dutch-door at the entrance to the office.
>> I, too, heard the story of the 800, and many, many more. It was a great
>> place to learn railroading from some of the best.
>> Jeff Sanders
>>
>>     On Monday, April 1, 2019, 7:12:15 PM EDT, NW Mailing List
>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>>  My good friend the late Clyde Weatherly was the operator at JK Tower
>> that
>> morning and handed up the orders to the 800.? Weatherly said that the
>> brakeman caught the orders because Dudding was already asleep braced
>> against
>> the cab window frame.? Weatherly also said that Dudding was known for
>> enjoying the big city of Roanoke and getting his rest on his way home to
>> Victoria.? This was the fireman?s first trip east; he fired the 800 west
>> from Victoria and did not want to work it back but there was no one else
>> in
>> town.? After Weatherly got off work, he went to Stewartsville to the
>> scene
>> and it was not pretty.? I remember his description of Dudding?s remains
>> which was graphic and not suitable for a family chat room.?- Ed
>> King?From:
>> NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 1:01
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>> NW Mailing List Cc: NW Mailing List Subject: VGN #800?I haven't seen a
>> post
>> on this subject yet today. I bring it to your attention because I believe
>> it
>> worthy to remember the souls lost
>>   on this day 78 years ago on our Virginian Railway.?At approximately
>> 5:20
>> am on April 1, 1941 Engineer John (Goldie) Dudding, Fireman Meade Brown
>> and
>> Head Brakeman Hollie Harrison lost their lives when the mammoth 800,
>> Class
>> AE 2-10-10-2 blew up between Stewartsville and Goodview, VA.?The story
>> has
>> been recalled many times, so I will not go into details now. For more
>> details you may go to H. Reid's VIRGINIAN RAILWAY, Kalmbach Publishing,
>> 1961, pages 92-95.?Jeff Sanders
>> ??
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 08:35:51 -0400 (EDT)
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>> Ed,
>>
>>      I also had the privilege of talking to Clyde just a week before his
>> passing about that night before 800 blew up.  I recall him showing me how
>> he, upon hearing about the "incident" as he called it, started searching
>> all
>> of the trash and copies of train orders in JK to see if "I missed
>> something"
>> as he put it.   Prince of a guy!
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>> Skip Salmon
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>>> On April 1, 2019 at 11:27 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
>>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>>>
>>>     Ed,
>>>
>>>     I had the privilege of befriending Mr. Weatherly, apparently about a
>>> decade after you were there. After classes at the community college I
>>> would slip down to JK and visit with Mr. Weatherly. I spent many hours
>>> hanging on the bottom half of the dutch-door at the entrance to the
>>> office.
>>>
>>>     I, too, heard the story of the 800, and many, many more. It was a
>>> great place to learn railroading from some of the best.
>>>
>>>     Jeff Sanders
>>>
>>>     On Monday, April 1, 2019, 7:12:15 PM EDT, NW Mailing List
>>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     My good friend the late Clyde Weatherly was the operator at JK Tower
>>> that morning and handed up the orders to the 800.  Weatherly said that
>>> the
>>> brakeman caught the orders because Dudding was already asleep braced
>>> against the cab window frame.  Weatherly also said that Dudding was
>>> known
>>> for enjoying the big city of Roanoke and getting his rest on his way
>>> home
>>> to Victoria.  This was the fireman?s first trip east; he fired the 800
>>> west from Victoria and did not want to work it back but there was no one
>>> else in town.  After Weatherly got off work, he went to Stewartsville to
>>> the scene and it was not pretty.  I remember his description of
>>> Dudding?s
>>> remains which was graphic and not suitable for a family chat room.
>>>
>>>     - Ed King
>>>
>>>     From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
>>>     Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 1:01 PM
>>>     To: NW Mailing List
>>>     Cc: NW Mailing List
>>>     Subject: VGN #800
>>>
>>>     I haven't seen a post on this subject yet today. I bring it to your
>>> attention because I believe it worthy to remember the souls lost on this
>>> day 78 years ago on our Virginian Railway.
>>>
>>>     At approximately 5:20 am on April 1, 1941 Engineer John (Goldie)
>>> Dudding, Fireman Meade Brown and Head Brakeman Hollie Harrison lost
>>> their
>>> lives when the mammoth 800, Class AE 2-10-10-2 blew up between
>>> Stewartsville and Goodview, VA.
>>>
>>>     The story has been recalled many times, so I will not go into
>>> details
>>> now. For more details you may go to H. Reid's VIRGINIAN RAILWAY,
>>> Kalmbach
>>> Publishing, 1961, pages 92-95.
>>>
>>>     Jeff Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> My previous reference to the date of Abingdon?s Section Foreman?s house
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