S1 whistles

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Bells would easily be different. The S1 was a Baldwin made bell, while the N&W cast their own in the foundry. Composition of metal is very likely different.

Ken Miller

> On Feb 1, 2020, at 10:34 PM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> Jim,
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> I have that Trolley Dodger disc with the 0-8-0's. It's especially cool to me as one of the engineers is A.L. "Brodie" Crawford. Several summers on vacation in Roanoke I rode with him in the station switcher in the evenings. It was a GP-9 but still a thrill. The bells do sound different between the S-1 and S-1a on that recording.
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> Roger Huber
> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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> On Saturday, February 1, 2020, 05:29:23 PM CST, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> As usual, Ed’s comment are very informative.  Someone asked about a recording of an S-1 whistles.  None of my records or CDs have such and only a couple have any recordings of the switchers at all.  There is an ebay seller called “TROLLEY DODGER” who sells many CDs recorded from LPs from all over the US.  I have one called “VINTAGE STEAM RECORDINGS:  N&W/Virginia Blue Ridge” (the railroad, not the location).  There are several segments of two 0-8-0s working the Roanoke station … 1 is ex-C&O, 1 is N&W-built.  No whistling but a LOT of bell ringing and there is a distinct difference between the two.
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> Jim King
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> Well said Ed King that my thoughts exzacly. The seven inch top was N&Ws standard fright whistle before the Hancocks been discussed here many times
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> Larry Evans
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> On Feb 1, 2020, at 7:46 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> Well, here’s what I remember.
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> First – the 475 has a hooter with a seven-inch bell, shorter and higher-pitched than the standard 12-inch (?) hooter.  My understanding is that the 7-inch hooter was replaced by the 12-inch job; I don’t know where the Strasburg got a 7-incher.  The sounds of the regular hooter varied as to the boiler pressure of the locomotive to which they were attached.  The A and Y-5 plus engines with 300 punds sounded different than the K_1/S-1as with 220.  The Ms with 200 pounds didn’t sound too much different than the 220s and the Y-3/3a/4 with 270 didn’t sound too much different from the 300-pound engines.  And there was always F. T. Nichols’ screamer which he used on the Abingdon Branch.
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> The passenger engines of the streamlined engines were handicapped by being down inside the skyline casing and the Ks with 220 pounds sounded different from the 300-pound Js.
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> For my money  the best sounding chimes were those on the two Pacifics used on the Clinch.  They were out in the open on the side of the steam dome, and they’d echo down the hollows along the Clinch and make you homesick on your own back porch.
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> Using the same freight whistles as the A, Y, etc sounds reasonable. Were there 2 freight whistles? The reason I ask is because the hooter I have heard on all recordings of the A, Y, Z and all sounded different from what I have heard on recordings of the M's. Boiler pressure? The whistle USUALLY used on the 475 at Strasburg has a different sound than the "hooter".
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> I think the BP may be the reason the K-2 sounds slightly different than the J as I'm told they had the same Hancock whistles. Is that true?
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> I think the N&W should have copied the special whistle from the 382 and used that one more! LOL
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> Roger Huber
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> On Friday, January 31, 2020, 02:47:24 PM CST, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> It seems to me that the S1a whistle would be a little quieter (not as loud) than the other engines using the standard hooter due to boiler pressure differences. I don’t see why N&W would design a special whistle for the switchers when their standard whistles were probably readily available.
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> I have Bill Bauer’s recordings from 1958 and some are noted as S1 or S1a engines. There may be some whistling on one of them.
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