Y3 Proto 2000

Tue May 5 13:46:11 EDT 2020

Canteen is also known as an A tank, aux tender or cistern which was an extra water tender along with the regular tender

Mike

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Dumb question of the day - What's a canteen? please

Walter Davis

On 5/5/2020 8:26 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
I do not know if the Y3 used canteens but on my 12 or so I do use a canteen. The reason for that is the pickups on the locomotives it self is poor and looses contact in time. I have wired a Bachmann canteen in parallel that solves this problem.

Doing this is must if you will use sound as most sound units have little tolerance for bad pickup and it spoils the mood. I use soundtrax decoders with the capacitor included with great results.

Mike Ritschdorff

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Does any know if the N&W Y-3's ever used Canteens?

I have three of the P2K  Y-3's, hope get DCC sound installed this year.

W.A.Coleman

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Thanks, Don. I couldn't figure that out and assumed it was some sort of abbreviation or description I'd never head of. Makes sense.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works

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And “rwnswe” is “tender” with the left hand shifted one key to the left on the keyboard.

Don

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Roger -

The N&W had two varities of 18000 gallon tenders.  The type modeled for the Y-3s is the earlier version.  A later version had a cast underframe that served as the bottom of the cistern; it was somewhat shorter than the earlier version.  Both versions carried 26 tons of coal.  The 16000 version modeled carried 23 tons; N&W had several hundred of these tenders.

The next step up was the 22000 gallon job which also carried 26 tons of coal and made its debut behind the Y-5s.

Hope this helps -

EdK

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Ed,

I have a hard time making ID on some of the N&W tenders. What is an 18k rwnswe tender?

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works

On Friday, May 1, 2020, 07:36:35 PM CDT, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:

I have a 2005 with footboard front end, no bridgepipe and 18K rwnswe.  This is correct for the 2005 which was in yard service at Portsmouth.

I have a 2024 with road pilot, bridgepipe and 18K tender.  This engine worked the Roanoke-Bluefield local freight and I photographed it a couple of times at Walton.

I have a 2037 (the first Y-3 I ever saw) with a road pilot, no bridgepipe, and thanks to a tender swap with the Rev. Jim Nichols, a 16K tender.  I saw the 2037 working a mine run on the Dry Fork.

Hope this helps . . .

- Ed King

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Re: Proto 2000 Y3.  I checked my two models.  They are both lettered.  2005 has the original Y3 front set up and with foot board pilot.  2024 came with bridge pipe front end and road pilot.  I remember contacting Life-Like about buying a road pilot for 2005.  They sent me the part at no charge.  Unfortunately after Walther's acquired Life-Like, they wanted nothing to do with steam models. So finding a bridge pipe part would not be easy.

Attached is a photo of 2010 in Hagerstown original front end and road pilot.  Photo by Charles Summers.  Charlie worked as a farm hand.  On his weekends off he would take rail photos with a simple box camera.  Before his death he gave his negatives to a friend of his.  2010 was one of his better efforts.  Too bad he didn't have a better camera.  I have scanned what there was of N&W, dating from the late 1930's up to the end of steam on the Shenandoah Division.

--Rick Morrison

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