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Probably been covered but I seem to remember and the recesses of my mind when you go back a long way now I have a derailment on that same stretch of road on a curb at Glenvar I’ll be Virginian electric the railing on the curb as it went down the long road past Walden into SalemiProbably been covered but I seem to remember and the recesses of my mind when you go back a long way now I have a derailment on that same stretch of road on a curb at Glenvar I’ll be Virginian electric the railing on the curb as it went down the long road past Waubin into Salem! Don’t remember what year! It was an original western electric unit!
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Ken Tanner
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> 1. Re: Derailment near Glenvar, VA 10-30-2020 (NW Mailing List)
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> The road that went under this span is Barley Road. I have a friend who lives west of this site on Barley Road. Last year he and I visited this bridge and noted that it was built at the beginning of the last century as were many other viaducts and spans nearby on the old VGN. I wonder what NS will do concerning the others (like the one east of the Yateman Viaduct} which seem to be in similar condition?
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>> On November 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> The Roanoke Times has four photos taken later in the day. In one, it can be seen where one of the bridge piers was snapped off near the base.
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>> See https://roanoke.com/news/local/norfolk-southern-train-derails-spills-coal-into-roanoke-river-in-western-roanoke-county/article_223cbbd6-1ba7-11eb-acc8-b332c9eaa349.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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> So, are we jumping to conclusions that the bridge was at fault? Maybe the derailment took out the bridge.Jimmy LisleSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> The road that went under this span is Barley Road.? I have a friend who lives west of this site on Barley Road.? Last year he and I visited this bridge and noted that it was built at the beginning of the last century as were many other viaducts and spans nearby on? the old VGN.? I wonder what NS will do concerning the others (like the one east of the Yateman? Viaduct} which seem to be in similar condition?
> Skip Salmon
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> The Roanoke Times has four photos taken later in the day. In one, it can be seen where one of the bridge piers was snapped off near the base.
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> See?https://roanoke.com/news/local/norfolk-southern-train-derails-spills-coal-into-roanoke-river-in-western-roanoke-county/article_223cbbd6-1ba7-11eb-acc8-b332c9eaa349.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 3:27 PM Ed wrote:
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> I believe it was 822.
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> As one who spent several years representing the Motive Power Department
> in the early 1980s on the three-man derailment investigation team (aka
> go team) for the Northern Region of the NS (remember when the former N&W
> was designated the Northern Region and the former Southern was
> designated the Southern Region?)? I will be interested from my arm chair
> to see what the determination of the cause of this accident will be.? I
> am not familiar of the particular bridge that collapsed, but with some
> knowledge of the sturdiness of the former Virginia bridges, I find it
> hard to believe that the bridge collapsed under the weight of the train,
> unless a pier or an abutment was somehow subject to excessive erosion
> from the river (doubtful).? Rather, it seems more likely that the train
> was derailed in advance of the bridge, and the derailed cars brought
> down the bridge.? I think this could be indicated by the aerial view of
> the derailment site published in the Roanoke Times which shows the
> crossties in approach to the bridge (bottom right in the image below) in
> great disarray as though one or more cars were derailed in approach to
> the bridge.
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> This is the view from my arm chair (no more calls at 2:00 a.m. to drive
> a couple of hundred miles to a derailment site), and I'll be interested
> to know what the investigation shows to be the cause of the bridge collapse.
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> Incidentally, this picture was taken for the Roanoke Times by David
> Hungate, the son-in-law of my friend Andy Stone.
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> Gordon Hamilton
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>> On 11/1/2020 11:13 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
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>> The road that went under this span is Barley Road.? I have a friend
>> who lives west of this site on Barley Road.? Last year he and I
>> visited this bridge and noted that it was built at the beginning of
>> the last century as were many other viaducts and spans nearby on? the
>> old VGN.? I wonder what NS will do concerning the others (like the one
>> east of the Yateman Viaduct} which seem to be in similar condition?
>>
>> Skip Salmon
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>>> On November 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM NW Mailing List
>>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>>> The Roanoke Times has four photos taken later in the day. In one, it
>>> can be seen where one of the bridge piers was snapped off near the base.
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://roanoke.com/news/local/norfolk-southern-train-derails-spills-coal-into-roanoke-river-in-western-roanoke-county/article_223cbbd6-1ba7-11eb-acc8-b332c9eaa349.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
>>> <https://roanoke.com/news/local/norfolk-southern-train-derails-spills-coal-into-roanoke-river-in-western-roanoke-county/article_223cbbd6-1ba7-11eb-acc8-b332c9eaa349.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1>
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>>> Bruce in Blacksburg
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> Very good point, Jimmy! Let's not get like the media and jump to conclusions for hysteria's sake.
> Roger HuberDeer Creek Locomotive Works
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> On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 04:46:57 PM CST, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> So, are we jumping to conclusions that the bridge was at fault? Maybe the derailment took out the bridge.
> Jimmy Lisle
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> -------- Original message --------From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> Date: 11/1/20 11:13 AM (GMT-05:00) To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> Subject: Re: Derailment near Glenvar, VA 10-30-2020
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> The road that went under this span is Barley Road.? I have a friend who lives west of this site on Barley Road.? Last year he and I visited this bridge and noted that it was built at the beginning of the last century as were many other viaducts and spans nearby on? the old VGN.? I wonder what NS will do concerning the others (like the one east of the Yateman? Viaduct} which seem to be in similar condition?
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> Skip Salmon
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> On November 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> The Roanoke Times has four photos taken later in the day. In one, it can be seen where one of the bridge piers was snapped off near the base.
> See?https://roanoke.com/news/local/norfolk-southern-train-derails-spills-coal-into-roanoke-river-in-western-roanoke-county/article_223cbbd6-1ba7-11eb-acc8-b332c9eaa349.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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