NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 197, Issue 16
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Thanks so much for the den and now pictures of Boaz it took me back! Thanks again, Ken Tanner former (wish I still was, )Roanoker
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> 1. RE: Boaz Today and Yesterday (NW Mailing List)
> 2. RE: Ball's Hole Revisited (NW Mailing List)
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> Most welcome Ray. Work took me right by Boaz this week. Had to stop. John
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> John,
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> Thanks for providing this. I really enjoy the "then and now" pictures from
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> The pictures at Irving were also quite helpful.
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> Ray Smoot
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> Since it's been in the discussion lately.
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> Here's Boaz pusher siding today (see attachment) and just over 60 years ago
> (see link below). The handrail on Bridge #96 at MP 254 is all that's left of
> Boaz (besides a few cinders and clinkers). Both of these views are looking
> west. The increase in track height today is considerable.
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> Time marches on, John Garner, Newport VA
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> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 13:11:13 -0500
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> Subject: RE: Ball's Hole Revisited
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> According to Abram?s Radford Div Telegraph list Ball?s BA is 1.3 miles east of Elliston.
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> According to my calculation that places it right about at the old US Hwy 460 single-lane, eastbound overpass that was finally bypassed maybe 20 years ago (see attached).
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> His list also states it?s 2.4 miles east of present Singer. That puts you at the RR bridge over the Roanoke River by the old meat packing plant (see attached).
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> These two points are about 0.4 miles apart. Any thoughts as to which, if either, is correct? Seems like an earlier discussion on the list placed Ball?s considerably farther east towards Singer but I can?t locate that now. Trying to figure what topography made this place so complicated/dangerous. Thanks.
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> 1.3 miles east of Elliston https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=11387
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> 2.4 miles west of Singer https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=55482
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> John Garner
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> We have had a number of discussions about Ball's Hole on the Radford Division, about its location, operating through it, and its replacement as Singer. I've been cruising through issues of the Salem Sentinel in the digital newspaper archive of the Library of Virginia (https://virginiachronicle.com/). This weekly paper has news from around the region, nice neighborly info about who is visiting who and who is traveling, etc. There is an irregular column with Radford Division news and a regular column of "Balls Siding Jottings" each week. It is mostly about people but it does have occasional tidbits about the railroad, such as this one:
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> Salem Sentinel, Volume 6, Number 27, 29 August 1899, pg. 2
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> Balls Siding Jottings.
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> Mr. Johnson Fry, of Lurich, Va., is at work with a force of men building road-bed in ?Ball?s Hole.? After he completes this, a force of men will pull the track and raise the elevation, which will be a great improvement on the present track, as ?Ball?s Hole? has a wide reputation as being one of the most dangerous places on the N. & W. system.
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> So this helps nail down a little bit more about that "dip" in the railroad and an effort to try to improve it.
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