NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 208, Issue 1

Tue Jan 4 17:42:55 EST 2022

There's likely a very good financial reason for the changes. Many
railroads, once passenger services had been terminated, no longer required
the additional financial tax burden a larger depot would present come tax
day based upon size of course. That was a common element from back when:
smaller improved building means smaller tax burden on a specific piece of
land.

As long as freight was still coming in and waybill out, then that could
continue as did LCL in some cases but when passenger went kaput, so did
that extra sized building.

Bob Cohen

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>    1. Cloverdale VA Station Question (NW Mailing List)
>    2. Looking for Harry Crawford Clark, N&W Telegrapher
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>    3. Re: Cloverdale VA Station Question (NW Mailing List)
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> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: "nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Cloverdale VA Station Question
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> Looking at various pictures of the Cloverdale VA station it appears the
> station changed considerably through the years. Does anyone know the
> history of the station at Coverdale VA? My dad remembers how it appeared in
> the 1940s and into the 1950s, and the pictures from that time period are as
> he remembers it. However, a picture from the 1970s is very different.
> The picture in the N&W archives is from 1956.?NWHS NW13342-Slide
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> This picture from the O Winston Link museum is from 1957.?
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> https://hswv.pastperfectonline.com/photo/4070DC13-E3F7-46BA-9D28-239255984241
> ?However
> <https://hswv.pastperfectonline.com/photo/4070DC13-E3F7-46BA-9D28-239255984241?However>,
> this picture from the Virginia Tech archives from 1976 is very different.?
> https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=DR115
> Was the station modified or rebuilt at some point in time, and does anyone
> know when this occurred?
> Thanks for any help with these questions.
> Shawn Harley
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> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Cloverdale VA Station Question
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> Looking at the 3 photos that you shared, it seems as though they shortened
> the station.  Notice the door window pattern to the right of the bay window
> in the OWL photo.  If you ignore the open door, and start at the closed
> white door with dark trim, the door-window-door-window pattern is
> reproduced at the left most front ( from trackside) edge of the newer
> station.  Further the baggage handling dock in the older OWL photo matches
> the lower portion of the station that is not sided in the newer VT picture.
>
> And, if you look at the NWHS slide, you can clearly see the station is
> close to the street crossing.  In the newer VT photo, you can see that the
> foundation of an old building is close to the camera.  I believe this is
> the foundation of the portion of the original station that was removed.
>
> The only thing that I am not certain of, is the chimney location... it may
> not match.  you can just see it to the right of OWL's camera, and it
> appears to be too far to the left, to match the position I would expect in
> the newer VT image.
>
> Mike Rector
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> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:28 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Looking at various pictures of the Cloverdale VA station it appears the
> > station changed considerably through the years. Does anyone know the
> > history of the station at Coverdale VA? My dad remembers how it appeared
> in
> > the 1940s and into the 1950s, and the pictures from that time period are
> as
> > he remembers it. However, a picture from the 1970s is very different.
> >
> > The picture in the N&W archives is from 1956. NWHS NW13342-Slide
> > <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=137124>
> >
> > NWHS NW13342-Slide
> >
> > <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=137124>
> >
> > This picture from the O Winston Link museum is from 1957.
> >
> >
> >
> https://hswv.pastperfectonline.com/photo/4070DC13-E3F7-46BA-9D28-239255984241
> >
> >
> > However, this picture from the Virginia Tech archives from 1976 is very
> > different.
> > https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=DR115
> >
> > Was the station modified or rebuilt at some point in time, and does
> anyone
> > know when this occurred?
> >
> > Thanks for any help with these questions.
> >
> > Shawn Harley
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 15:27:22 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> Subject: Re: Cloverdale VA Station Question
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> I found the old station location on Google maps.
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> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cloverdale,+VA/@37.3645686,-79.9060496,33a,35y,40.36h,77.15t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x884d1017004ab2e9:0x72326e8a35e34d0!8m2!3d37.3615287!4d-79.9136731
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> You can just barely make out a few remaining elements in this view:
> the warehouse to the right of the VT photo, and the mountains in the
> background.
> The CPL signal seems to still be standing in the Google map photo, if not
> still in real life.
> Some very faint remnants of the station foundation appear to exist.
>
> Mike REctor
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 3:14 PM Mike <mrector333 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looking at the 3 photos that you shared, it seems as though they
> shortened
> > the station.  Notice the door window pattern to the right of the bay
> window
> > in the OWL photo.  If you ignore the open door, and start at the closed
> > white door with dark trim, the door-window-door-window pattern is
> > reproduced at the left most front ( from trackside) edge of the newer
> > station.  Further the baggage handling dock in the older OWL photo
> matches
> > the lower portion of the station that is not sided in the newer VT
> picture.
> >
> > And, if you look at the NWHS slide, you can clearly see the station is
> > close to the street crossing.  In the newer VT photo, you can see that
> the
> > foundation of an old building is close to the camera.  I believe this is
> > the foundation of the portion of the original station that was removed.
> >
> > The only thing that I am not certain of, is the chimney location... it
> may
> > not match.  you can just see it to the right of OWL's camera, and it
> > appears to be too far to the left, to match the position I would expect
> in
> > the newer VT image.
> >
> > Mike Rector
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:28 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Looking at various pictures of the Cloverdale VA station it appears the
> >> station changed considerably through the years. Does anyone know the
> >> history of the station at Coverdale VA? My dad remembers how it
> appeared in
> >> the 1940s and into the 1950s, and the pictures from that time period
> are as
> >> he remembers it. However, a picture from the 1970s is very different.
> >>
> >> The picture in the N&W archives is from 1956. NWHS NW13342-Slide
> >> <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=137124>
> >>
> >> NWHS NW13342-Slide
> >>
> >> <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=137124>
> >>
> >> This picture from the O Winston Link museum is from 1957.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://hswv.pastperfectonline.com/photo/4070DC13-E3F7-46BA-9D28-239255984241
> >>
> >>
> >> However, this picture from the Virginia Tech archives from 1976 is very
> >> different.
> >> https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=DR115
> >>
> >> Was the station modified or rebuilt at some point in time, and does
> >> anyone know when this occurred?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help with these questions.
> >>
> >> Shawn Harley
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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