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I whole heatedly support this initiative. With a huge nod to Ken, The Arrow
is one of our greatest assets. Putting it into new people's hands would be
a great opportunity.

It would require special coding on the website to allow to order for
someone else. It would also be beneficial to require that you provide your
own membership info in order to place the order, so that people can't use
it for themselves. Finally, you'd want to make sure that the mailings
included a special card indicating this was a trial membership and
including information to sign up for future membership.

They say that habit is one of strongest behaviors in humans. Make it a
habit to receive the mailings.

I would take it a step further and require an email address, so that those
persons could be signed up for the emailing list. So they get used to
seeing the conversations here. It would also be beneficial for the society
to be able to send out emails when they're account is a couple months from
expiring.

Mike Rector

On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 10:53 AM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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> I support this as out lined by Tim but no further  than that . Saying that
> I seriously doubt  it will attract any younger members . Face it  If your
> young and interested in NS
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> You’re not going to reach out to N&WHS when it’s all at your fingertips on
> the internet for free . So for other ideas for membership I will throw this
> out again . You totally rejected it at the convention. I would like to
> start a guest  membership program where a member can buy a guest membership
> for another person at cost for one year non-renewable non- voting. In hopes
> that the person likes it and renews as a member . How can that be wrong no
> cost to us what so ever. And to add to that  got to get more into
> Multimedia Media publications for this younger generation  I have advocated
> for this ever since being on the board . Our sister organizations C&OHS
> ,NYCHs and others offer hundreds of PDF publications we offer none. not
> that we don’t have them .  It should be a goal of this board to have 100
> Pdfs on the Web- site for sale within a year . If you don’t offer it you
> can’t sale it.
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> Larry Evans
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> *From:* NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] *On
> Behalf Of *NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2024 8:02 AM
> *To:* 'NW Mailing List' <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> *Cc:* NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: NS
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> All,
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> All this means is that we may have generally one page of NS-era
> information in *The Arrow*.  The primary criteria is that it must be
> relevant to the parameters of original railroad between Norfolk and
> Cincinnati-Columbus. It will not focus on new diesels, what's going on in
> Ft. Wayne or Kansas City, Altoona, etc.; we'll leave that for and not try
> to compete with N&WHS member Scott Lindsey's *Railfan & Railroad Column.*
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> We may focus on things like the Heartland Corridor, replacement of the
> twin Hatfield Tunnel bridges at Matewan, WV, major new customers locating
> on-line, coal loading statistics and trends, things of that nature.
> Initially I have volunteered to write the column; in contrast the
> BOD/Officers decision was made during the October 19 virtual meeting in an
> effort to attract new and younger members.
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> It is intended to be just one page of a 34-page issue.  So there is really
> no need for everyone to get in an uproar over this editorial experiment. We
> are NOT selling out our beloved Norfolk & Western.
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> Tim Hensley
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> President
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> On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 09:03:45 PM EDT, NW Mailing List via
> NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> Jim,
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> I agree with you.
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> In my case, I joined the NWHS in 1985, so saw NS/NW/SOU/etc. Many of my
> models are NS and some NW and SOU and other railroads that merged into
> NW/NS. My models range from the early 80’s when I purchased models of what
> I saw in Roanoke to things running today in the same area. I’m looking
> forward to getting a few more VGN diesels soon and have a kitbash planned
> of a VGN PA passenger locomotive along with a scratch-built Roanoke VGN
> station.
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> I focus on the lines in Virginia, especially between Roanoke and Norfolk,
> both NW and VGN, due to many trips I made in the 80’s to 2010 when
> travelling due to military duty and taking photos of what I could see then.
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> I like to study the things that are here today, but looking at them as to
> how they evolved from the previous century, from steam to now. I have lots
> of books about our railroad and others that are great to learn about the
> past. I’ve looked at satellite photos of things like Sewells Point to see
> where the VGN coal yards and piers were, comparing them to things which are
> now Navy property. It’s been interesting to take photos near the Navy
> Exchange and compare items in the background that appear in VGN photo
> books. Examples of this would be a water tower with red and white
> checkerboard to protect it from the nearby military runway and Navy power
> plant smokestacks. I’d love to explore the fenced in area near the PX where
> you can still make out where the VGN yard was. I’d love to get some lumps
> of coal and a couple rail spikes from that area, but it’s not permitted.
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> We do have books that were published and offered through the Society that
> explored the evolution of locations that are now NS, but were previously
> VGN. I think if looking at the present with how it ties to the past is
> done, then NS related items should be included.
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> Keeping any organization alive as we move through this century is
> important. We face the same thing with a small train museum I volunteer at
> in Fredericksburg. We have old people who just can’t physically do the work
> they did long ago and not enough young members coming in to take it over.
> Younger people see NS more than NW, because they never knew NW. The Society
> is a way for younger people to make that connection, to appreciate and
> learn about it and grow their interest in it, much as my interest in NW/VGN
> has grown over time.
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> If we can’t generate interest from younger people with things they can
> relate to, we’re doomed to extinction.
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> Respectfully,
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> Phil Miller
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> *From:* NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org> *On Behalf Of *NW
> Mailing List
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 27, 2024 6:14 AM
> *To:* NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> *Subject:* NS
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> I am sorry I forgot to sign my submission.  I am Jim Cochran, member of
> the BoD and chairman of the society's model committee.  I served on the board
> 40 years ago and even back then we were discussing NS inclusion to broaden
> the audience to which our efforts might appeal.  For all intents and
> purposes the N&W ended in 1982 with the formation of NS.  The number of
> folks with "first -hand" knowledge of N&W is getting smaller every year
> and many people out there have only ever seen "da hoss" in daily
> operations.  Further, I personally believe that many people like to model
> what they see out there in use.
>
> As those of you who pay attention to the status of the society may know,
> our membership has been in decline for a number of years such that today we
> are a mere shadow of what we were in our heyday.  This means our revenues
> from both membership dues and sales are correspondingly reduced making it
> harder and harder to produce the Arrow or fund any other projects.
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> Embracing NS has always been considered as a way to get additional and
> perhaps some younger members into the society.
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> It is not our intent to diminish our devotion to the N&W in any way and
> that will always be the primary focus of our society.  However we will be
> giving limited space in the Arrow to NS topics related to N&W in hopes of
> appealing fo people interested in more current aspects of the road.
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> This is a thumbnail of the reasoning behind our decision.  Please send
> your specific question and I or other BoD members will answer them as best
> we can and thank you for your continued support without which we cannot
> provide you with the Arrow, the archives, the database, and all the other
> things that you may take for granted.
>
> Jim Cochran
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