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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gary</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> " <FONT color=#000080>This was
not used on locomotives" </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What do you base this statement on? I do not have
any first hand knowledge about Locomotive lettering with gold
leaf.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But I do know </FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>for
fact the N&W and C&O used real gold leaf in passenger applications. And
would think it would</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>be in the realm of possibility that in the day they
may have use it on passenger locomotives as the drawing suggest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Lettering color on early
steam</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Strictly speaking
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">gold leaf</SPAN></B> is gold beaten
extensively between two sheets of leather so that it forms an extremely thin
sheet, about 0.001” thick and thinner. Gold is a very soft, plastic metal in
pure form. This thin sheet would be cut up adhesively applied to jewelry
and furniture. This technology goes back centuries. This was not
used on locomotives. Too expensive.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gold leaf paint is
paint that has actual ‘ground-up’ powder of actual gold metal in it as the
pigment. Thus, it is costly.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">“Gold” paint today
has some other ground up mineral as the powder that mimics the color and
reflectivity of gold (Au) but doesn’t cost that much. Iron Pyrite (all
that glitters is not gold) used to be part of the pigment but that too became
too costly.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">DULUX gold paint is a
yellow pigmented paint that is not based on a metallic pigment. But, it
looks gold-like. Cheaper.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gary
Rolih<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><FONT color=navy
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cincinnati</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:City><FONT
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nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NW Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:00
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Norfolk Western
Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
Lettering color on early steam</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In generic terms, what is
gold leaf comprised of? and how is it applied to the
prototypes?<BR> <BR>Thanks,<BR>Dave Willis<BR>(blt 1962, c/n
4)<BR> <BR>> To: nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName><BR>> Subject: Re:
Lettering color on early steam<BR>> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 06:20:27
-0400<BR>> From: nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName><BR>> <BR>> It appears
to me, that in VERY early photos of N&W locomotives (perhaps <BR>>
freight only) that the lettering is white rather than gold, for example the
<BR>> picture of the first loco produced by <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Roanoke</st1:place></st1:City>. Anyone else have data?<BR>> Jim
Cochran<BR>> dcochran116@roadrunner.com<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original
Message ----- <BR>> From: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NW Mailing
List</st1:PersonName>" <nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>> To:
"<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NW Mailing List</st1:PersonName>"
<nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>> Sent: Tuesday,
September 08, 2009 9:20 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Lettering color on early
steam<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Joe<BR>> ><BR>> > I have
drawing F1154 Oct 24 1884 shows gold leaf on passenger tenders <BR>> >
and gold paint on<BR>> > fright locomotive tenders<BR>> ><BR>>
> Larry Evans<BR>> > <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Kenova</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">WV</st1:State></st1:place><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NW
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>" <nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>> > To:
<nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>> > Sent:
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:04 PM<BR>> > Subject: Lettering color on
early steam<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >> Gentlemen,<BR>>
>> I've been asked by a model company to supply info about the lettering
on <BR>> >> early N&W steam. My information is that the lettering
color on both <BR>> >> passenger and freight pre-1900 steam was gold
leaf. Can anyone confirm <BR>> >> or deny that?<BR>> >>
Thanks<BR>> >> Joe Giannovario<BR>> >> O Scale Trains
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