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<DIV>Ed,</DIV>
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<DIV>You are right about the different stack talks of the Y's vis a vis the A's,
but as best as I recall the sounds from both locos blended in a caphony that
echoed off the roundhouse wall and other objects so that it wasn't obvious which
sound came from which locomotive. Anyway, what I remember mainly is the
different exhaust angles of the two loco classes.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I don't know whether it was necessary for the Y's to start out of West Yard
in simple, but I think by the time they came by the roundhouse they were above
the speed for simple operation.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gordon Hamilton</DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org href="mailto:nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org">NW
Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org
href="mailto:nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org">'NW Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 09, 2009 10:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Y6B 2171</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If
the locomotives were showing smoke and or steam</SPAN></U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
as they passed wouldn't the difference in each locomotive's stack talk also
be give-a-way? Wouldn't the front and rear engine's <U>2 separate
exhausts from the "simple " Class-A</U> per rotation (with the 2 engines
seldom being in sync) be distinguishable from the <U>single exhaust of the
"compound" Y-Class</U> per rotation (rear high pressure engine cylinders
exhausting to the front lower pressure engine cylinders which than exhausted
through the smoke box and out the stack - unless operating in simple) ?
Or - When starting the trains like this did the Y begin by working
in simple?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ed
Painter - Narrows, VA - living in Russellville, AR<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>NW Mailing List<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 03, 2009
7:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NW Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Y6B
2171<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>This slanted stack discussion reminds me of a small
experience that I had the summer of 1956 when I worked at the Shaffers
Crossing roundhouse before I was so rudely drafted into the Army for a couple
of years. Whenever an eastbound coal train would pull out of the
west yard and accelerate up the slight grade leading to the 24th Street
underpass with a Y6 leading an A, a lot of the work in the roundhouse would
stop momentarily as a number of the men would rush to the open windows to
watch the awesome display of power. Sometimes there would be a train
standing on the track between the roundhouse and the track on which the coal
train was departing, pretty well blocking the view of the eastbound except for
the tops of the locomotives. That was when I discovered that the Y6
exhausts were angled forward whereas the A exhausts went straight up.
So, without being able to see the locomotives themselves, I could confirm from
the exhausts that the Y6 was leading the A.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Gordon Hamilton<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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title=nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org href="mailto:nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org">NW
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
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02, 2009 1:48 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> RE: Y6B
2171<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Bud,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Thanks………..You
know, after I sent the email I had some second thoughts and wished that I
had validated the slanted stack comment before I sent it. Obviously I
should have done so. Thanks for correcting my
error.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ed
Painter; Narrows, VA currently Russellville, AR <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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href="mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org">nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org</A>
[mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>NW Mailing
List<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 02, 2009 10:26 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NW
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Y6B
2171<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Y6 and Y6a
all had the slanted stack just like the Y6b.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Bud
Jeffries</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday,
November 02, 2009 10:50 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> RE: Y6B
2171<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
Y-6b's most distinguishing feature compared to Y-6's and Y-6a's was the
Worthington SA Feedwater Heater on top of the smokebox in front or the
(Y-6b only) slanted forward smoke stack. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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href="mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org">nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org</A>
[mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>NW Mailing
List<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 30, 2009 3:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Y6B
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Y6a has
two air pumps on the engineer's side, with a BL feedwater heater on
the fireman's side . The Y6b has an air pump on each
side.<BR> <BR>James Jarvis<BR> <BR>> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009
16:38:13 -0400<BR>> To: nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org<BR>> Subject: RE:
Y6B 2171<BR>> From: nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org<BR>> <BR>> I too saw
them in 1973. And while my slides are marked "Virginia Scrap <BR>>
Iron", United works for me. Attached are some photos.<BR>> How can one
distinguish between a Y6 and Y6b in the state these locos <BR>> were
in?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Don Trettel<BR>> <BR>>
[Moderator]<BR>> See images at following:<BR>>
http://nwhs.org/wiki/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=69<BR>>
http://nwhs.org/wiki/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=70<BR>>
http://nwhs.org/wiki/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=71<BR>> <BR>>
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