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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Actually, the B&O through <st1:City
w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:City> was originally the <st1:City w:st="on">Marietta</st1:City>
& <st1:City w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City> running from <st1:City w:st="on">Marietta</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> on the Ohio River to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:place></st1:City>. It went through <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:place></st1:City> in 1854 and
was the site of their backshop which was used by the B&O until 1940 for
heavy repairs. The shops lasted for many years until about
1980. This crosses the Scioto Valley Ry/N&W at the Chillicothe Union
Station. This became part of the B&O Southwest then the B&O in
1917. About 1860, this line was adjusted to run to <st1:City w:st="on">Parkersburg</st1:City>
where it would connect with the B&O coming over from <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Washington</st1:City> <st1:State w:st="on">DC</st1:State></st1:place>
and Baltimore. Thus trains could run from DC To Parkersburg, then <st1:City
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City> and over the Ohio & Mississippi/B&O to <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">St. Louis</st1:City></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Running somewhat parallel was the Dayton
Branch of the <st1:City w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City> <st1:City w:st="on">Hamilton</st1:City>
& <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Dayton</st1:City></st1:place>.
This line went into <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Jackson</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> and the coal
fields there. This line runs on the southern edge of Chillicothe (well,
did) through Mead Paper and arcs upward to Musselman’s west of
Chillicothe where it crosses the M&C/B&O and heads to Dayton.
This CH&D/B&O crosses the Scioto Valley Ry/N&W at Renick. This
line was built about 1860 also. The CH&D is purchased outright by the
B&O in 1917<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>After Chessie and CSX much of the older
track arrangements between the CH&D and M&C portions was modified to
simplify activities in and around <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:place></st1:City>.
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>CSX abandoned the M&C in the mid 1980’s
(I think it was) while the CH&D/Dayton Branch was kept open until the
Fisher Body Plant in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Hamilton</st1:City>
<st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place> was closed and the auto
based business dried up in the early 1990’s. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gary Rolih<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cincinnati <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">NW
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 07, 2009
9:55 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nw-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Radford, Pocahontas
& Scioto Divisions 1950s</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Nathan, I grew up in the
Scioto Division and my father and grandfather were Operator/Levermen at the
various interlocking towers throughout the division. Since I lived in <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> at the end of the westbound line I don't know a lot
about the division east of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> The Scioto Division began
west of Williamson and ran to <st1:City w:st="on">Columbus</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> with a branch to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place>.
There was a big classification yard at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:place></st1:City>.
>From there it was doubletracked all the way to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City> where there were two
yards. Watkins Yard was at the South end of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City> and was where all coal drags were
broken down for interchange with the C & O, the PRR and the NYC.
There was a small exchange yard next to Watkins for the C & O. It was
called Mozelle Yard. It had about 6 tracks if I recall correctly.
The other yard in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City>
was Joyce Avenue Yard. This was the actual end of the N & W until the
merger with NKP in the mid 60s. This was the freight and passenger
yard. The line from <st1:City w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:City> to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City> was called the
Valley.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> There was a 14 mile
grade between <st1:City w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Kingston</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place> that required helpers.
They were kept at a siding just north of <st1:City w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:City>
and ran to <st1:City w:st="on">Kingston</st1:City> and backed down the hill to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Somtime in the late 50s or
early 60s they removed a section of the double track main between Waverly,
<st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place>. That move never made
sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> The interchanges were at Waverly, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Glen</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Jean</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Tower</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> with
the DT & I. In <st1:City w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> at <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Renick</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Tower</st1:PlaceType> with the MCRR (<st1:City w:st="on">Marietta</st1:City>,
Cincinnati RailRoad) which was later the CH & D ( <st1:City
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City>, Hamilton and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Dayton</st1:place></st1:City>) and finally I believe it was the
B & O. At <st1:City w:st="on">Circleville</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> the interchange was with the PRR and was
controlled by <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Circleville</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Tower</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>. At Valley
Crossing, <st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> it was with the HVRR (Hocking
Valley Railroad) which later became part of the C & O and was
controlled by <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Valley</st1:PlaceType>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Crossing</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Tower</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Bannon</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Tower</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> at the north end of Watkins yard
controlled an interchange with the PRR. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Just at the north end of <st1:City
w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> was a
branch line to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place>. It was called the Peavine.
It was single track with lots of curves and at least one grade, between Lawshe
and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Winchester</st1:place></st1:City>, that
required helpers until the Class As showed up. It ended at Claire Yard in
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:place></st1:City>.
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> My Great Grandfather was a
Hostler in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Chillicothe</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State></st1:place> for the MCRR. My Grandfather and
my Father worked at the yards in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:place></st1:City>
and at the towers in Glen Jean, Renick, Circleville, Valley Crossing and
Bannon. I used to go to work with him during the summer months.
I saw the 1200s, 2100s, 1100s, and even saw Jawn Henry once. The
passenger engines were not the Northeren 4-8-4, 600 series. I
believe they were shrouded 2-8-4s. Was it a <st1:place w:st="on">K2</st1:place>?.
The train that ran from <st1:City w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:City> to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City> was called the
Cavalier and its engine was numbered in the 120s.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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This is all from memory and I'm 67. So if I gaffed please forgive me, but I
think I'm reasonably accurate. <br>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NW Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><br>
To: NWHS <nw-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><br>
Sent: Thu, Nov 5, 2009 5:59 pm<br>
Subject: Radford, Pocahontas & Scioto Divisions 1950s<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=1 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>It
seems the older I get the more I wish I could have lived in the past to see the
Y6s, As, and Js. I guess it is the History buff in me. (After all I'm only 23).
This email I m sending so that I can learn some more about the Divisions west
of <st1:City w:st="on">Roanoke</st1:City> as well as to show ya'll my my photos
from this past weekend which was a trip west of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bluefield</st1:place></st1:City>. <br>
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So here goes, I know the Pulaski District came off at Walton and went down to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bristol</st1:place></st1:City>. I know the Main
to <st1:City w:st="on">Bluefield</st1:City> was double track this far, and I
know that it is Double Tracked from Narrows to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bluefield</st1:place></st1:City>. Now my question is was it double
track between Walton and <st1:place w:st="on">Narrows</st1:place> back in the
50s? <br>
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As for the Pocahontas Division I know it had the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Clinch</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Valley</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
and Pocahontas District, as well as many branches. But my questions are mainly
for the Pocahontas district. Exactly how far was it electrified? I have read to
Vivian and I have read Iaeger. I know electrification ended when the new
alignment came about which was 1950 right? Now for the Kicker, where exactly
did the old alignment go? This weekend I was on the Pocahontas and made it to
the west end of Elkhorn Tunnel and I think I was able to spot the Old alignment
to the North of the current one, it was higher and was across the hollow. So
where did it tie into everything on the East side of the hill? I ask because I
was in Coopers as well. <br>
<br>
Now for the Last question, Where exactly did the Scioto Division begin? What
all did it include? and what division is it part of in todays NS System? <br>
<br>
Here is the photo album from this weekend: <br>
*<a href="http://tinyurl.com/pokey-oct09*" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/pokey-oct09*</a> <br>
<br>
Oh one last question, this is for you Virginian folks. Right now the Virginian
connects to the Christiansburg district at <st1:place w:st="on">Narrows</st1:place>.
Now I suspect that the PD district that comes off the Christiansburg at PD jct
is also old Virginian am I correct on my assumption? and I also assume if I am
correct that the Virginian originally went stright through, and that N&W
abandoned the section between <st1:place w:st="on">Narrows</st1:place> and PD
jct. after the merger. Is the correct or am I all wrong? Please educate
me. <br>
<br>
Thanks in advance, <br>
Nathan <br>
<br>
PS I hope I didn't ask too many "Duh" questions, and I would research
it myself. But at the moment I don't have the time. However after I get caught
up on things I plan to do some research on some stuff. One thing being the Dry
Fork Branch. <br>
<br>
-- Nathan Simmons <br>
<a href="mailto:trainman51@gmail.com">trainman51@gmail.com</a> <br>
<a href="http://www.t-51.org/" target="_blank">http://www.t-51.org</a> <br>
KI4MSK <br>
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