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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A slightly different answer on western coal
movements</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tariff No. O.X. 1 on coal from the Pocahontas
region to Chicago went into effect on Nov 26, 1892 with the coal to be weighed
and manifested at Kenova. In 1893, Illinois Steel of Chicago started
purchasing coke from Powhatan Coal & Coke (Powhatan, WV), Norfolk Coal &
Coke, Shamokin Coal & Coke (Maybeury, WV) and Lick Branch Colliery
(Switchback, WV). By 1896, Illinois Steel was the major purchaser of coke
from the Pocahontas coalfield. The two attachments, (photographed at NWHS
archives) deal with Illinois steel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Starting in 1929 the Pocahontas Operators
Association (Pocahontas District and Tug River District) started tracking where
Pocahontas region coal was being shipped. In 1929 th ecoal distribution
was:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Inland Westbound - 14,198,745 tons</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lake Coal - 6,273,556</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Inland Eastbound - 2,730,005</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tidewater - 6,568,911</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The inland westbound went to:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wisconsin - 475, 872 tons</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michigan - 2,598,905 with 1,641,132 tons to
Detroit (Fordson Coal Co at Twin Branch, WV produced 537,182 tons in
1929)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Iowa - 66,753</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Minnesota - 96,569</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nebraska - 139</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>South Dakota - 24,563</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Buffalo, NY - 54,042</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Erie, PA - 23,065</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ohio - 3,986,991 with 1,399,643 to
Cleveland</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Indiana - 688,258</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Illinois - 5,961, 506 with 5,666,362 going to
Chicago ( United States Coal & Coke produced 4,871,274 tons in 1929 and
probably all of it was shipped to Chicago)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Canada - 203,549</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alex Schust</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nw-mailing-list@nwhs.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 08, 2010 5:43
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: N&W in 1910--Coal
movement</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Al:
Western coal moved to <st1:City w:st="on">Columbus</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> and connections there via Joyce Avenue Yard in
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City>. The PRR had just purchased
the Sandusky Branch for coal movement to <st1:City
w:st="on">Sandusky</st1:City> and <st1:place w:st="on">Lake
Erie</st1:place>. Before that purchase, N&W coal moved to
<st1:City w:st="on">Toledo</st1:City> (mostly) via the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Hocking</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Valley</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> or the Toledo & Ohio Central
(NYC). Some moved via the PRR through <st1:State
w:st="on">Indiana</st1:State> on the Pan Handle main to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Coal was classified
at <st1:City w:st="on">Portsmouth</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> and some went to <st1:City
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City> via the Peavine along with the larger
movements to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Columbus</st1:place></st1:City>. Some of the coal was coked at
New Boston for use in the Detroit Steel/Wheeling Steel plant in New Boston and
some of the coke was used in the steel plants in the Ironton area.
Some coal moved back east to the chemical plants eastbound from Kenova around
Cyrus as those chemical industries developed.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At Ironton and
Waverly/Glen Jean, some coal was interchanged to the
DT&I.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At <st1:City
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City>, most of the coal was moved down into
<st1:City w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:City> on trackage rights down the
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:place></st1:City>,
Lebanon & Northern (PRR) down to the Court Street Yard and the coal docks
near downtown. In those days and later, the N&W delivered most of
the coal for heating buildings in the commercial area of <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:place></st1:City>. Other
coal cars moved into <st1:City w:st="on">Norwood</st1:City>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Evanston</st1:City>, Hyde Park and Ivorydale/St. Bernard to large
coal wharves in each of these suburban towns of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cincinnati</st1:place></st1:City>. Most of this coal was
delivered to coal dealers for heating purposes.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gary
Rolih<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cincinnati<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces@nwhs.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NW Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:03
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: N&W in 1910--Coal
movement</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">At this time, 1910,
where were the N&Ws WESTERN coal movements going
to?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Al
Kresse<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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1<BR>Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:19:45 -0500<BR>From: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NW Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>Subject: N&W in
1910--Lots of news<BR>To: "3N&W Mailing List" <nw-<st1:PersonName
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<356024A98CBF4002BD50F5600A0AA248@DellVostro><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bluefield</st1:place></st1:City> Daily Telegraph<BR>August 30,
1910<BR><BR>IN CITY AND COALFIELD<BR>------<BR>Loses His Foot<BR>
Sam Goodall, a seventeen-year-old boy, who is the only support of a
widowed mother, lost his left foot at Oakvale yesterday when he fell from a
freight underneath the wheels. The boy and a companion of about the same
age, were riding on the train. Goodall tried to snatch the hat of his
friend while the train was in motion. He missed the hat and lost his
balance, falling underneath the wheels. He was brought to this city on
an engine and taken to the Bluefield Sanitarium where his injuries were
treated. The boy's house is at Ingleside.<BR>------<BR>No Branch Line to
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Roanoke</st1:place></st1:City><BR> The Daily
Telegraph has learned that the <st1:City w:st="on">Chesapeake</st1:City> and
<st1:State w:st="on">Ohio</st1:State> is not planning the construction of a
branch line to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Roanoke</st1:place></st1:City> or any other point in that section.
This information comes from the office of the president. An effort
to learn from the same source whether the <st1:City
w:st="on">Chesapeake</st1:City> and <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Ohio</st1:place></st1:State> intends to extend its Big Sandy branch
was not productive of results. It is therefore likely [sic] that such an
extension of the Big Sandy branch such as has been mentioned in the Daily
Telegraph is contemplated.<BR>------<BR>Not Hurt by Fall From
Train<BR> While under the influence of a jag George Teller,
of <st1:place w:st="on">Narrows</st1:place>, was thrown from a freight train
yesterday at Lurich and owning to his load he was able to escape injury.
The man tried to catch a passing freight but was unable to do so.
He was thrown to the ground and when picked up it was thought his back
was broken, but an examination proved that his suppleness, due to the
inactivity of the muscles, saved him from the broken
back.<BR>------<BR>Sensation at Bramwell<BR> Quite a
sensation was created in Bramwell yesterday when Dr. Ed. Jones arrived in town
with his Hupmobile. Those who knew he was coming, and there were a good
many of them, lined the streets awaiting the arrival of the doctor with his
harbinger of better roads. Several went out on horseback to see the car
make the hills, but it went to town without any trouble. This is the
fist car which has made the run from this city to Bramwell and the Hupmobile
is the first car owned and driven in Bramwell. Several Bramwellites own
cars which they drive in the east but heretofore they have been content to
leave them there. The car took the route to Bramwell via Hales's
crossing near Midway.<BR>------<BR>Excursion Circus Day<BR>
The <st1:City w:st="on">Norfolk</st1:City> and Western has announced an
excursion from the <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Clinch</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Valley</st1:PlaceType> to <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bluefield</st1:place></st1:City> for the eighth
of September when the Hagenbeck-Wallace circus will be here. Owing to
the law passed by the last session of the <st1:State
w:st="on">Virginia</st1:State> legislature circuses cannot show in <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Virginia</st1:place></st1:State>, the license
fee of over $1,000 for each performance being prohibitive. On this
account the towns on the borders of the adjoining states are getting the
business this year.<BR>------<BR>Lost Left Leg<BR> Sam
Musslewhite, of Big Four, a miner, lost his left leg near Claren yesterday
afternoon about 3.30 o'clock when, in attempting to catch a passing freight
train, he fell beneath the cars. He was found a short time afterwards by
a section hand and sent to the Miners' Hospital, at
Welch.<BR>------<BR>Inspection Tour<BR> President L. E.
Johnson and a few of the officials will pass over the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norfolk</st1:place></st1:City> and Western
today on a tour of inspection. The party will arrive in a special
train.<BR>------<BR>[Lots of railroad items--and one railroad competitor
item-- that day!]<BR><BR>Gordon Hamilton<BR>-------------- next part
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w:st="on">NW Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>Subject: N&W in
1910--Coal movement<BR>To: "3N&W Mailing List" <nw-<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mailing-list@nwhs.org</st1:PersonName>><BR>Message-ID:
<8901D2C94F034DB8B264839F4CF1BDE8@DellVostro><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Bluefield</st1:place></st1:City> Daily Telegraph<BR>August 31,
1910<BR><BR>EASTERN MOVEMENT OF COAL IS VERY HEAVY<BR>------<BR>Half Million
Tons More Dumped Over Lamberts Point Pier Than Ever Before, Mr. Barrett
Says<BR> F. R. Barrett, of Norfolk, is authority for the
statement that up to the 10th of this month the Norfolk and Western had dumped
over Lamberts Point over 500,000 tons more coal than has been dumped at the
same period in the history of the Lamberts Point pier.<BR>
This record speaks well for the eastern movement so far this year and
shows that the western movement, which has been enormous, is not the only
movement which the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Norfolk</st1:place></st1:City> and Western depends
upon.<BR> According to semi-official advices the shipments
for the past fifteen days on the railroad have been record breaking and some
trouble has been experienced in getting enough cars to supply the demand.
The outlook at this time is such that it is believed the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norfolk</st1:place></st1:City> and Western will
equal if not exceed the wonderful record of last month when the road shipped
within seven thousand of a million and a half tons. The cars during the
past month have averaged a smaller tonnage than the month previous and this
may reduce the total although it will be close to the million and a half
mark.<BR> Every coal agency in the city has a large number
of unfilled lump orders which are slow in filling on account of the lack of
demand for slack and the lack of call for coke, which situation does not seem
to improve, although a healthier movement of coke is expected next month.
If these lump orders could be filled as fast as they come in and
assurances given the market that the business could be taken care of, the
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Norfolk</st1:place></st1:City> and
Western would have more than it could handle.<BR> One
feature of the movement which is noticeable this fall is the lack of wrecks on
the road. Last year about this time the road was having all kinds of
trouble and cars were being smashed up every day. The percentage of cars
broken up or smashed this year is small, thereby adding considerably to the
car supply. It has, however, shown its effect on the shop forces, which
are not crowded as they have been in former years, although the road is
hauling more tonnage than ever before in its history. These little
things have a big effect on the earnings of the company as it is not necessary
to keep equipment in the shops.<BR>------<BR>Gordon Hamilton<BR>--------------
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