From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Thu Sep  3 17:47:33 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:47:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Rapido N Scale N&W release in peril
In-Reply-To: <410-220098218193510910@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <878028.45249.qm@web38702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rapido has warned that many roadnames may not be produced as announced, N&W among them, so if you were thinking about getting your reservation in please do so (I ordered two of the "PM like" coaches).

Mark Peele
Catonsville, MD


From the latest Rapido telegraph:
===================

Possible N Scale Paint Scheme Cancellations

It seems that Rapido Trains Inc. is not immune to the economic downturn. We announced a second run of N scale passenger cars, including our new Dayniter leg-rest coach, and sufficient orders just didn't come in. Unfortunately, we can't produce a given paint scheme unless we have enough advance orders to cover our costs.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the following paint schemes are at risk of being cancelled. Illinois Central seems to be the hardest hit. The orders for cars in IC colors are less than half the quantity of our next lowest paint scheme. You can see all of the second run N scale product numbers in one glance by clicking here.

    * Central of Georgia
    * Chesapeake & Ohio
    * Erie
    * Grand Trunk Western
    * Illinois Central
    * Lackawanna
    * Louisville & Nashville
    * Milwaukee Road (UP Colors)
    * Missouri Pacific (Jenks Blue)
    * Norfolk & Western 

We'll delay production for about six weeks and see what kind of orders come in. I will let you know which paint schemes will have to be cancelled in issue 22 of the Telegraph. Hopefully the orders pick up before then and all of the paint schemes can be produced.
================================
N&W in N scale


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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Early N & W diesels in HO DCC
> To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:35 PM
> 
>  
>  
> Regarding getting a passable "passenger"
> GP9, You could use a Walthers (Proto) GP9 with the chassis
> from one of their GP20 units which has a large tank and
> horizontal air tanks which at least resemble the underbody
> of the N&W passenger geeps. Dan Mulhearn
> ?
> 
> Dan and Nina Mulhearn; Pipestem WV
> dannina1 at earthlink.net
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Thu Sep  3 21:00:04 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:00:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Signal Head
Message-ID: <805706.76790.qm@web180016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Gentlemen,
I have purchased the N&W signal head and I would like to know what color the lamps are 7 (seven) holes for lamps.
I have been told the lamps were amber and also have been told they where red.
My son and I are modelling N&W from the mid 40's to the mid 70's with a twist on history or basically freelancing the road.
Rhank you for your hekp.
Yours aye,
Mac
(Macdonald,RB)
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: NS track inspection cars 
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NS operates several Track Inspection and Development Cars
housed in what appear to be former Southern bay-window cabooses. I am looking
for photographs or descriptive information about the appearance of any of
these. I have several photographs of NS 48, all of the same side (left side if
the A end is considered the front). I will try to model one of
these, and would appreciate help regarding the appearance of the ends and
opposite side. 

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:06 -0500
Subject: Signal Head
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AMBER!     Jim Nichols

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:00 PM
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Subject: Signal Head

 

Gentlemen,

I have purchased the N&W signal head and I would like to know what color the
lamps are 7 (seven) holes for lamps.

I have been told the lamps were amber and also have been told they where
red.

My son and I are modelling N&W from the mid 40's to the mid 70's with a
twist on history or basically freelancing the road.

Rhank you for your hekp.

Yours aye,

Mac

(Macdonald,RB)

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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Fri Sep  4 10:09:36 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:09:36 -0400
Subject: Signal Head
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References: <805706.76790.qm@web180016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AA11FA0.3020504@carolina.rr.com>

Well, Mac that kind of depends..

I'm sure someone here can offer more information, but depending on 
whether the head was the top or bottom aspect, I've seen both yellow and 
colored lenses.

Here's what we have on NS today, which I assume has not changed since 
the days of N&W:

Top aspect - top & bottom lens green, diagonal lenses yellow, left, 
right & center lenses red
Bottom Aspect - all outside lenses yellow, center lens red.

Kenneth Rickman

NW Modeling List wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> I have purchased the N&W signal head and I would like to know what color 
> the lamps are 7 (seven) holes for lamps.
> I have been told the lamps were amber and also have been told they where 
> red.
> My son and I are modelling N&W from the mid 40's to the mid 70's with a 
> twist on history or basically freelancing the road.
> Rhank you for your hekp.
> Yours aye,
> Mac
> (Macdonald,RB)
-- 
Kenneth Rickman - krickman1 at carolina.rr.com
Salisbury, NC

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by 
stupidity." - Robert J. Hanlon

From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Fri Sep  4 12:59:23 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:59:23 -0400
Subject: Signal Head
In-Reply-To: <805706.76790.qm@web180016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <805706.76790.qm@web180016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7016D6756A3642C4B5109BBE26ADA9F3@071927350f>

After late 1958, the N&W went from position light signals- all yellow- to
color position light signals using red, yellow and green.  The aspects for
each individual signal head are different depending on what aspects are
necessary to be displayed at a specific location.  An N&W operating rule
book will show what aspects are used by the railroad for a give range of
years.  Rules and aspects change over time. 

 

In very simple terms, a seven position color-position- light would have two
green lights top and bottom, three red lights in a horizontal row though the
center, and yellow lights on the diagonal positions on the perimeter. 

 

For instance the aspect of three vertical yellow lights or two vertical
green lights means 'proceed'; three horizontal yellow lights or three
horizontal red lights means stop or stop-and-stay.  Other aspects display,
approach, approach slow, approach medium, diverging approach and many other
aspects.  The intent is to provide the engineer with speed control
information and then some information on diverging routes.  Thus, signals
are constructed to show different aspects as a train approaches a switch,
cross over, siding, interlocking or whatever.  They are not just
-stop-or-go.  So, not all signal heads use all 7 locations.

 

There are a couple of websites that cover railroad signaling especially the
Pennsylvania railroad type which are similar but not the same as N&W types.
You would do well to study these sites and also visit any railroad layouts
that use extensive operating signal systems.  They will have some good
advice for you.  

 

Gary Rolih

Secretary N&WHS 

 

 

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[mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:00 PM
To: NW-Modeling-List
Subject: Signal Head

 

Gentlemen,

I have purchased the N&W signal head and I would like to know what color the
lamps are 7 (seven) holes for lamps.

I have been told the lamps were amber and also have been told they where
red.

My son and I are modelling N&W from the mid 40's to the mid 70's with a
twist on history or basically freelancing the road.

Rhank you for your hekp.

Yours aye,

Mac

(Macdonald,RB)

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:58:42 -0400
Subject: Signal Head
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	<7016D6756A3642C4B5109BBE26ADA9F3@071927350f>
Message-ID: <846E2A880F39408AB78703766B90B435@Jimmy>

"In very simple terms, a seven position color-position- light would have two green lights top and bottom, three red lights in a horizontal row though the center, and yellow lights on the diagonal positions on the perimeter. "

How about only two of each color. The middle light was blanked off.
Jimmy Lisle
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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Fri Sep  4 21:18:29 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 18:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Signal Head
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I'm not sure when the N&W changed to colored lenses.? But I know that in the glory days of steam all aspects of the signal where displayed in "FOG PENETRATING AMBER" not yellow like most people will say.? 
?
Gewidebody

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From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Signal Head
To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 10:09 AM


Well, Mac that kind of depends..

I'm sure someone here can offer more information, but depending on whether the head was the top or bottom aspect, I've seen both yellow and colored lenses.

Here's what we have on NS today, which I assume has not changed since the days of N&W:

Top aspect - top & bottom lens green, diagonal lenses yellow, left, right & center lenses red
Bottom Aspect - all outside lenses yellow, center lens red.

Kenneth Rickman

NW Modeling List wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> I have purchased the N&W signal head and I would like to know what color the lamps are 7 (seven) holes for lamps.
> I have been told the lamps were amber and also have been told they where red.
> My son and I are modelling N&W from the mid 40's to the mid 70's with a twist on history or basically freelancing the road.
> Rhank you for your hekp.
> Yours aye,
> Mac
> (Macdonald,RB)
-- Kenneth Rickman - krickman1 at carolina.rr.com
Salisbury, NC

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Robert J. Hanlon
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 18:29:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Signal Head
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Check out the following website.? It has some very useful information on CPL's used by PRR, N&W, B&O.? It also has diagrams showing the various signal aspects and Indications.
?
http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Signal/aspects_us_pl.html
?
Gewidebody


      
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