From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Mon Sep 28 15:45:45 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: VGN PASSENGERCARS In-Reply-To: <031201ca3fd1$4d594050$e80bc0f0$@net> Message-ID: <699477.99520.qm@web180113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Gents; The three VGN passenger cars that Division Point was going to produce were the CH4 coach, the BM3 baggage and?mail, and the Winging?Gulf club car. ?Working with the Illinois Railway Museum at Union , Ill. and the N&WHS archive I put together a complete drawing package for each of these cars for Division Point.? Drawing and photo packages were also put together for the PA 4-6-2 pacifics at the same time. Jack was very enthusiastic about producing?the entire VGN passenger train. ?He and I disagreed regarding which PA versions to offer. He wanted to offer the #212 with slant cab and the #210 with the originial box car. I wanted the #212 and the #213 both with slant cabs and without the oil/water separator ahead of the stack. My reasoning was that #212 was the only PA with a standard stoker and a unique tender fill funnel. The #213 had a duplex stoker and the standard tender water fill funnel and thus could be renumbered to any of the other four PA's without much effort. Also the ugly oil/water separator that was applied to?some of the PA's could be included separately in the parts package for those who like ugly things . Now It appears to be a moot point since DP has cancelled both the cars and engines. I have asked that the drawing packages be returned and we will seek another importer for the project. I am now working up a package for the original N&W RS3s for DP. DP wants to add the N&W RS3s to their currect run of these ALCO diesels. A drawing package for the N&W RS11s will be worked up for DPs later run of RS11s.? As for the N&W heavyweight passenger cars, it has been a long wait but I believe that the wait will be worth it for those of us that can afford them.? If you don't like the paint scheme on the RPOs blame me. The paint work?was taken from my photos.? Harold Davenport - Chairman N&WHS modeling committee.????????? --- On Sun, 9/27/09, NW Modeling List wrote: From: NW Modeling List Subject: RE: VGN PASSENGERCARS To: "'NW Modeling List'" Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 8:19 PM The Division Point Virginian Cars are on hold/cancelled due to lack of orders. If they get more reservations/request they will do them. That's only three (3) cars fellas! Stephen Rineair -----Original Message----- From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:56 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: VGN PASSENGERCARS Does anyone on the list have information about a planned run of Vgn? brass passenger cars in HO ? any information appreciated.? Peter? North, Norfolk, England ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Mon Sep 28 20:19:37 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:19:37 +0000 Subject: VGN PASSENGERCARS In-Reply-To: <699477.99520.qm@web180113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <031201ca3fd1$4d594050$e80bc0f0$@net> Message-ID: Mr. Davenport, I have ordered one of the N&W RPO's. I discussed the paint color with Ken at Division Point last week, and it looks very good. Thank You for all of your hard work and effort. Jim Flummer Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:45:45 -0700 Subject: RE: VGN PASSENGERCARS To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Gents; The three VGN passenger cars that Division Point was going to produce were the CH4 coach, the BM3 baggage and mail, and the Winging Gulf club car. Working with the Illinois Railway Museum at Union , Ill. and the N&WHS archive I put together a complete drawing package for each of these cars for Division Point. Drawing and photo packages were also put together for the PA 4-6-2 pacifics at the same time. Jack was very enthusiastic about producing the entire VGN passenger train. He and I disagreed regarding which PA versions to offer. He wanted to offer the #212 with slant cab and the #210 with the originial box car. I wanted the #212 and the #213 both with slant cabs and without the oil/water separator ahead of the stack. My reasoning was that #212 was the only PA with a standard stoker and a unique tender fill funnel. The #213 had a duplex stoker and the standard tender water fill funnel and thus could be renumbered to any of the other four PA's without much effort. Also the ugly oil/water separator that was applied to some of the PA's could be included separately in the parts package for those who like ugly things . Now It appears to be a moot point since DP has cancelled both the cars and engines. I have asked that the drawing packages be returned and we will seek another importer for the project. I am now working up a package for the original N&W RS3s for DP. DP wants to add the N&W RS3s to their currect run of these ALCO diesels. A drawing package for the N&W RS11s will be worked up for DPs later run of RS11s. As for the N&W heavyweight passenger cars, it has been a long wait but I believe that the wait will be worth it for those of us that can afford them. If you don't like the paint scheme on the RPOs blame me. The paint work was taken from my photos. Harold Davenport - Chairman N&WHS modeling committee. --- On Sun, 9/27/09, NW Modeling List wrote: From: NW Modeling List Subject: RE: VGN PASSENGERCARS To: "'NW Modeling List'" Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 8:19 PM The Division Point Virginian Cars are on hold/cancelled due to lack of orders. If they get more reservations/request they will do them. That's only three (3) cars fellas! Stephen Rineair -----Original Message----- From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:56 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: VGN PASSENGERCARS Does anyone on the list have information about a planned run of Vgn brass passenger cars in HO ? any information appreciated. 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Message-ID: <034e01ca4084$6a6d2900$3f477b00$@net> Why would one order direct when dealers are discounting the RPO's? Stephen Rineair From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:17 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars Go to Divisionpoint.com. I spoke to Ken Friday, and he has 30 RPO's available. Order direct from them, $448.00 each. John _____ Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Division Point N&W passenger cars To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org I'm late getting into this string. Can you give me info on these cars - hopefully including photos ? Thanks for your help. Have a happy day. Neil K Yerger audreyly at aol.com In a message dated 9/26/2009 10:10:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: DP update. By now dealers have received an invoice for the RPO car. The RPO was a "test" for the builder (a 1-1/2 person shop) who had not done any passenger cars before. In order to keep the builder from having to up-scale staff, and to give the end customers a break in this economy, cars will be produced a 3-month intervals. Up next is the baggage car and the business cars. BTW, the #101 business car in Tuscan has been added. If anyone still needs RPO's, I know where they are available, email me. Stephen Rineair crineair at fuse.net ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ _____ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Wed Sep 30 15:55:29 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:55:29 -0400 Subject: Laying Rails in Bristol Message-ID: I have been asked to post a reminder that there is still time left to sign up for the joint NWHS/SRRHS mini con in Bristol on October 16th and 17th. The focus of this get together is modeling, specifically for modelers of the N&W, VGN, SRR, and the Clinchfield. Bob Hundman will be one of the presenters. There is a link to the mini-con flyer on the NWHS event page. The event itself is held in a restored depot. Registration is $15. The whole thing sounds like a lot of fun. Frank Bongiovanni -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Oct 1 20:19:29 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:19:29 -0400 Subject: Laying Rails in Bristol In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59aa255a0910011719n5e31712fh3ceef6703f63ccea@mail.gmail.com> Is it necessary to pre register? As I recall, registration at the event held in Lynchburg took place on the date of the mini con. Since I live near Bristol I plan to attend but had planned to register then. Bob McCracken On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, NW Modeling List wrote: > I have been asked to post a reminder that there is still time left to sign > up for the joint NWHS/SRRHS mini con in Bristol on October 16th and 17th. > The focus of this get together is modeling, specifically for modelers of > the N&W, VGN, SRR, and the Clinchfield. Bob Hundman will be one of the > presenters. > There is a link to the mini-con flyer on the NWHS event page. The event > itself is held in a restored depot. Registration is $15. > The whole thing sounds like a lot of fun. > > Frank Bongiovanni > > ________________________________________ > NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org > To change your subscription go to > http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list > Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at > http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Sun Oct 4 20:13:03 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:13:03 -0400 Subject: YARD LAYOUT In-Reply-To: <29D5CCA1-3230-4F8C-AC85-35E56B6CF0EA@rev.net> References:

Message-ID: Ken The more I work with your yard facility drawings and photos the more help it has been. The book is constantly open to the photo of the locomotive servicing facilities. Very nicely done and your research and hard work are definately appreciated. Again, thanks! Ed Svitil Subject: Re: YARD LAYOUT Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:21:29 -0400 To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thanks Gentlemen I worked particularly hard on that map and chapter, spending an inordinate amount of time cleaning up that drawing. It is nice to know someone appreciates it. I also specifically laid the book out so that it would not have a portion fall in the gutter so that if someone wanted to copy and put the pieces together, they would not lose information as happens so many times. Shaffers is a huge complex and I'd love to see a model of it. The drawing in the book actually was part of a larger section, probably another foot or two on each end. It was part of a presentation C.E. Pond, GM of Motive Power presented to the Locomotive Maintenance Officers Association about 1949. There is also a drawing of Williamson in the paper. I do not recall directly, but I think there was also a drawing of Winston-Salem, NC as an example of a smaller locomotive terminal. Ken Miller On Sep 24, 2009, at 1:18 PM, NW Modeling List wrote: Marty Perfect! The text and pictures are even better! Thanks to you and Jim (archives) for your help - now all I got to do is build it! Ed Svitil To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: Re: YARD LAYOUT Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:22:05 -0400 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org The best I've seen for an engine terminal is in "The Norfolk And Western Class J" by Ken Miller. Pages 52-53 have a great diagram of Shaffers Crossing in Roanoke. The Richard Prince book also has a diagram of Portsmouth on page 90. Marty Flick ----- Original Message ----- From: NW Modeling List To: NW Modeling Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: YARD LAYOUT Hi Folks Been searching the books and newsletters for a typical N&W engine servicing layout. In Norfolk & Western Handbook found one for Williamson on p 120 but would appreciate any pointers of another for comparison and a bit more detail. Many thanks! Ed Svitil Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2392 - Release Date: 09/24/09 05:52:00 Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: