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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:09:02 -0400
Subject: USRA 4-8-2?
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I took a Spectrum heavy mountain and  Spectrum J shell and made a K2.  I cut
off the Bullet nose and removed all the extra length on the front of the
boiler.  I also shortened the firebox on the forward end so it didn't over
lap the rear driver.  I am sure a Light mountain could be used as well.  I
used the spectum J shell since it comes apart into multiple pieces and is
easier to slice and dice accordingly.  The old J shell could be used as
well.

John Rhodes

If you have any other questions email me at johntrhodes at gmail.com


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> wrote:

> I'm just curious if anybody has tried kitbashing a loco using the running
> gear from a Spectrum light Mountain and the body from a J?
> --
> Kenneth Rickman - krickman1 at carolina.rr.com
> Salisbury, NC
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:54:50 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: USRA 4-8-2?
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I have the parts, unfortunately, not the time. 



The streamlined K2 were noticeable smaller diameter than the J.? The original Bachmann J shell is very close to correct for this, the Spectrum (and BLI and MTH) are not, being too large a diameter. 



The USRA heavy and light Mountain locomotive had the same driver diameter and wheelbase, either chassis will be fine.? I have a Bowser USRA Mountain chassis for the project. 



A while ago, Bachmann had a series of pictures on thier website of a K2 streamlined model, I do not know if it is still there. 



Nigel 


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Subject: Re: USRA 4-8-2? 

I took a Spectrum heavy mountain and? Spectrum J shell and made a K2.? I cut off the Bullet nose and removed all the extra length on the front of the boiler.? I also shortened the firebox on the forward end so it didn't over lap the rear driver.? I am sure a Light mountain could be used as well.? I used the spectum J shell since it comes apart into multiple pieces and is easier to slice and dice accordingly.? The old J shell could be used as well. 

John Rhodes 

If you have any other questions email me at johntrhodes at gmail.com 



On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:11 PM, NW Modeling List < nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org > wrote: 


I'm just curious if anybody has tried kitbashing a loco using the running gear from a Spectrum light Mountain and the body from a J? 
-- 
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Salisbury, NC 

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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Mon Oct 26 12:59:13 2009
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:59:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: USRA 4-8-2?
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This would make a nice modeling article for the Arrow.? I hope those of you who have done this will submit an artilce with photos. 



Jim Brewer 

NWHS Modeling Editor 


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Subject: Re: USRA 4-8-2? 

Pictures?!!!! 
Charlie Long 
Lynchburg 




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Subject: Re: USRA 4-8-2? 

I took a Spectrum heavy mountain and? Spectrum J shell and made a K2.? I cut off the Bullet nose and removed all the extra length on the front of the boiler.? I also shortened the firebox on the forward end so it didn't over lap the rear driver.? I am sure a Light mountain could be used as well.? I used the spectum J shell since it comes apart into multiple pieces and is easier to slice and dice accordingly.? The old J shell could be used as well. 

John Rhodes 

If you have any other questions email me at johntrhodes at gmail.com 



On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:11 PM, NW Modeling List < nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org > wrote: 


I'm just curious if anybody has tried kitbashing a loco using the running gear from a Spectrum light Mountain and the body from a J? 
-- 
Kenneth Rickman - krickman1 at carolina.rr.com 
Salisbury, NC 

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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Mon Oct 26 16:37:07 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:37:07 -0400
Subject: USRA 4-8-2?
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Yes, please!  I have absolutely no need for the model, but I'd love to 
see it, all the same.

NW Modeling List wrote:
> This would make a nice modeling article for the Arrow.  I hope those of 
> you who have done this will submit an artilce with photos.
> 
> Jim Brewer
> 
> NWHS Modeling Editor
-- 
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Salisbury, NC

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stupidity." - Robert J. Hanlon

From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Wed Oct 28 13:19:22 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:19:22 -0400
Subject: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj
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Stephen,

Sorry for the lag in providing you a reply.  The Scalecoat paint is #14 Caboose Red (or 2014 for Scalecoat 2).  Back in the early 70's I painted an ALCO Brass, PRR N-6B cabin car for my Dad.    The cabin car came out very nicely. Dad and I both noted how the color really looked like it would be a good  N&W Passenger Red too.  (This pre-dated Scalecoat's release of their N&W Red.)  I was doing a lot of painting at that time, brass and otherwise, and preferred Scalecoat over other available paints (and still do).  Within the next couple of years I painted an Olympia Class-J of Dad's.  I first sprayed the boiler and tender black followed by masking and spraying the Scalecoat #14 Red bands over the black.  (The red on the J when compared to the N-6B was very similar in tent despite the fact that the #14 red was applied directly over the lacquered brass on the N-6B vs being sprayed over Scalecoat gloss black on the Class-J)  Regardless I've used it since then as N&W Red on plastic and brass passenger cars to a NWSL N&W Dynamometer Car.  I have been very pleased with it.

I did a little comparison of N&W Reds on some of my locomotives last night:

Sunset Class-J 604 - Factory Paint                                                                              By far the lightest and brightest red of this group of models.
Olympia Class-J 606 (I painted for Dad w/#14 caboose red band)               Darker than the Sunset 604 but a lighter, brighter, red that 600, 611, 603, and 612
Broadway Ltd. Class-J 600 (Gloss made in China )- Factory paint                 Almost a Merlot or Cabernet dark wine red tent but overall lighter than 611, 603, and 612. and darker than 606.
Key Class-J 611 )- Factory paint                                                                                 611 to 603 to 612 progressively become deeper and darker reds with 612 being the deepest/darkest. *
Overland Class-J 603 )- Factory paint                                                                       *
Broadway Ltd. Class-J 612 (flat finish made in Korea) )- Factory paint        *

With all this I still personally like Scalecoat  #14 Caboose Red best.  I personally believe there is a range of acceptability in color and in my opinion all of the above fit into it with the possible exception of Broadway Ltd 600 from China???.( I do like dry Merlot and Cab???but not on a N&W Class-J or passenger car).

Ed Painter - Narrows, VA; living in Russellville, AR


From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:38 PM
To: 'NW Modeling List'
Subject: RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj

Ed:
What is the Scalecoat item # for the PRR Tuscan Red that you use?
Stephen

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Subject: RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj

Harold,

So as we go in circles about what are the right shades for N&W colors and the ongoing problem with model manufactures using inconsistent colors when painting their models?????.

What I did back in the 70's when I was doing a lot of brass (and plastic) painting was to choose "my" N&W standard colors from available paints at that time. For N&W Red I used Scalecoat PRR #14 Caboose Red (Scalecoat wasn't producing N&W Red at that time) and for Pevler Blue I used Scalecoat AT&SF #24 Blue . When Scalecoat II became available both these colors were also produced in Scalecoat II.  I continue to use these Scalecoat colors as my standards for painting N&W equipment today.

We need to have N&W standard paints/colors for the following?

Passenger Red
Roof Brown
Pevler Blue
Cab (caboose) Red
MofW Green
MofW Gray
Others?

So why couldn't the N&WHS Modeling Committee evaluate currently available model railroad paints and select a best matching color for each N&W color and make these the N&WHS, N&W standard colors for modeling?  We could then provide these to model manufactures???. and likewise individual modelers wers would have the knowledge to use them for custom painting.

I'm sure there would still be individuals who wouldn't be happy for one reason of the another about the specific colors chosen?..but aat least there would be standards and could optimistically look forward to color consistency from model manufacturers in the future.

Ed Painter, Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR

From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [ mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:11 AM
To: 'NW Modeling List'
Subject: RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj

Harold:
As you stated, you supplied the photo of a freshly painted M1, is the color of the roof supposed to be brown or black?
Did DP get it correct according to your photo?

Second, if you are referring to me about needing a blue version of a BEj, you should have read my post.  I need a blue version of a BMj

If one is painting an N&W blue locomotive, most modelers use C&O blue, SF blue, B&O blue, or dark blue.  Please note!  All of these blues are very close in the spectrum.  The reds that our society wants to consider acceptable are at one end of the red spectrum to the other.  It is common sense that we as a society can at least narrow the red spectrum.  The DP cars are on the far end of the spectrum of maroon/red/pink.  There will always be personal choices of shades of red as there are shades of the blue mentioned above.  As for a paint committee, isn???t that what the model committee is responsible for also?  Paint is part of the model.

What do you suggest to be done for the next car by DP?

I expect variations from manufacturers to manufacturers.  If we can get the blues schemes close to each other, why can???t we get the reds and be happy that they???re just close together?  As far as the lighting of my photos of the models, they were taken outside in natural light.  The DP photos are poor examples of the model showing shadows from dark to light.  One last thing, remember I stated that the color was my take on the model.  Other people are certainly allowed to like or dislike it as they please.

Stephen Rineair

Ed: you stated the obvious regarding the color of the red. The photo I supplied DP was of an M1 freshly painted. What red DP choose to paint the car is their business. If anyone wants to see the M1 models in a properly lit photo go to www.DivisionPoint.com<http://www.DivisionPoint.com>. There are two photos of the painted models under the N&W heavyweight pass. car listing. Also if someone is looking for a blue version of a BEj  photo one can be found on page 5 of Jim Nichols book - N&W Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment. Any serious N&W modeler will have a copy of Jim's book and would have known that a photo of the BEj was within.  Also railway postal cars did not have "venetian blinds" but were required to have barred windows account the carrying of certified mail containing cash and other valuables.                                                                                                     Harold Davenport
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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Thu Oct 29 16:27:51 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:27:51 -0400
Subject: N&W Reds
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Ed,

 

That's a really informative comparison about how all those different reds were rendered on the models.  I have several passenger cars and possibly a J awaiting paint.  Thanks for sharing that information.  Info like this would at least seem to lay down some semblance of the correct color range(s) for the models. 

 

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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Fri Oct 30 00:25:52 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:25:52 -0400
Subject: Building an N&W WWII era layout
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Hi all,

My name is Kit Anderson and I am interested in building a WWII era layout of the N&W.  I am not new to model railroading.  Like many in the hobby, I started with Lionel as a kid and made the transition to HO when I was 12, I am now 53.  Been involved with several clubs over the years including the last 20 years in a modular club but I am coming to a point in my life where I will be able to start working on a home layout.  :)   I often dream big but have trouble following thru.  My house has a 15 by 25 room in it that was built for a layout.  I am going to be starting to design an N&W layout and I joined your society to get some help on the details for the layout.  Modeling a specific time period will help me lock down equipment and I like the WWII time period anyway and the military in general.  I like long coal trains and plan on trying to work them into the layout.  

Any suggestions or book references that you think would be a good place to start would be appreciated.  

Hope to talk to you all more in the future!  Thanks!   Kit Anderson  lordector at aol.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:57:49 -0400
Subject: N&W Reds
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I to want to thank Ed for his insight on paint used.

Ed: Do you use a different red for heavy weight car than the streamlined,
and what would you recommend?

Stephen Rineair

 

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Ed,
 
That's a really informative comparison about how all those different reds
were rendered on the models.  I have several passenger cars and possibly a J
awaiting paint.  Thanks for sharing that information.  Info like this would
at least seem to lay down some semblance of the correct color range(s) for
the models. 
 
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No, I've used the Scalecoat #14 for everything I've painted N&W red since the 70's.

Ed Painter Narrows, VA - Currently living in Russellville, AR

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I to want to thank Ed for his insight on paint used.
Ed: Do you use a different red for heavy weight car than the streamlined, and what would you recommend?
Stephen Rineair

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Ed,

That's a really informative comparison about how all those different reds were rendered on the models.  I have several passenger cars and possibly a J awaiting paint.  Thanks for sharing that information.  Info like this would at least seem to lay down some semblance of the correct color range(s) for the models.

Chris Dalton,
Bluefield, WV




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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:44:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: HO layout suggestion
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Kit asks for layout suggestions:

#1 - get Mason Cooper's book on the Shenandoah Division, out of print but found periodically on eBay.

#2 - model Vardo Yard (Hagerstown) to Front Royal, with plenty of horse farms and apple orchards along the right of way....

I trust you'll find this guidance helpful,

Frank

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Kit, 

The Kenova District between Williamson and Portsmouth or anything Roanoke eastward towards Norfolk would give you troop trains, long coal trains and Class A's.  I'm working towards mid to late 50's on my layout, but if I was doing WWII era I would have to include at least one unstreamlined J1.  I think there is a picture of a J1 in Ken Miller's J book doubleheading on a troop train.  What a brutish looking 4-8-4!!  I guess the biggest drawback I see for my personal taste for the WWII era on the N&W is the exclusion of the Y6b.  I guess its all in what you want.

 

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But you get the E3 and K3 - not really gains in my book either :)? For me, the loss of the roller bearing A, is a bigger set back than the loss of the Y6b. 



Model Railroading (MRG) had a series several years ago on bashing a Spectrum PRR K4 into a N&W E3, and WSM (I believe) offered a brass one, made by Samhongsa.? Sunset offered a K3 by Samhongsa.? Bashing a K3 would be a bit more of a project. 



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Kit, 
The Kenova District between Williamson and Portsmouth or anything Roanoke eastward towards Norfolk would give you troop trains, long coal trains and Class A's.? I'm working towards mid to late 50's on my layout, but if I was doing WWII era I would have to include at least one unstreamlined J1.? I think there is a picture of a J1 in Ken Miller's J book doubleheading on a troop train.? What a brutish looking 4-8-4!!? I guess the biggest drawback I see for my personal taste for the WWII era on the N&W is the exclusion of the Y6b.? I guess its all in what you want. 
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I model the 1930's which may be a little early for most, and the pre- 
WWI loco's and cars are a pain to get right, but I model area in south- 
western Virginia, with lots of hills, and cuts and small towns just  
starting up.  I generally follow the practices and such of the N&W  
where I can find pictures to imitate.  There is lots of activity east  
of Honaker....  I have W's, M's a load of Y3's and the occasional Z1,  
K3, and USRA K2's.  The glaring omission is the HU and HUa hoppers  
which Lifelike dropped the ball on.  They would have been perfect  
behind their Y3's.  Sadly, Westerfield was going to do it, but he  
retired instead.  I have a few HP's to build, and maybe make molds of  
so I can have more.  I do have the one HR, but it was a one of a kind.  
I don't have or want the E's, but still might cobble one from a Bowser  
K4 and N&W tender.

Mark Lindsey
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Kit,
The Kenova District between Williamson and Portsmouth or anything  
Roanoke eastward towards Norfolk would give you troop trains, long  
coal trains and Class A's.  I'm working towards mid to late 50's on my  
layout, but if I was doing WWII era I would have to include at least  
one unstreamlined J1.  I think there is a picture of a J1 in Ken  
Miller's J book doubleheading on a troop train.  What a brutish  
looking 4-8-4!!  I guess the biggest drawback I see for my personal  
taste for the WWII era on the N&W is the exclusion of the Y6b.  I  
guess its all in what you want.

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A question here for the 50's modeling crowd.  Just curious if any of you guys had bought a Broadway Blueline Roller bearing A and if so, how you feel about the model?



Quality of Operation, Paint Job, Sound Quality, etc.

 

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Mark:  Not that hard to build. The sides are the basic difference from a H3
(Yes, you need another hopper) I did one semi-scratch, using slope sheets
and hoppers from a Bachmann quad (Athearn would be a better starting point).
This was before the ECW or Broadway H3/H2a were available. One of them might
give you more to start with, but you would still need that extra hopper.
Jim Nichols

 

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 The glaring omission is the HU and HUa hoppers which Lifelike dropped the
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There are several choices of a 2-8-2 with 63? drivers as a starting point for the chassis. The boiler? Check out the diameter of the courses on a USRA 2-8-8-2 boiler. Pretty much the same, just shorter. Of course you wouldn?t want to waste a Proto Y3, but how about the boiler from an AHM/Rivarossi Y6b? Biggest problem would be moving the cylinders for the 4 wheel lead truck and the new rods this would require. Tender, of course, is now available. Not true when Jim Teese did his E3, but his use of the Bachmann auxiliary (the old one) suggests that the new one would be a good economical starting place. Or you could just rob one from the Proto Y3.     Jim Nichols

 

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.  Sunset offered a K3 by Samhongsa.  Bashing a K3 would be a bit more of a project.

 








    

 

 

 

 




 





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Chris,

 

I have two of them and they do run very well!! The blueline sound is very nice. Only TSU has better sound. They do pull very well as they do have a traction tires. Do not fret about the traction tires as they are well done and we have not be able to loosen one up in regular road service.

 

With any large mallet locomotive 36" radius or better will only enhance their performance!!

 

Any other questions or observations you can e mail me off list at nwpoca at hotmail.com

 

MIke Ritschdorff
 


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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:26:16 -0500
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A question here for the 50's modeling crowd.  Just curious if any of you guys had bought a Broadway Blueline Roller bearing A and if so, how you feel about the model?


Quality of Operation, Paint Job, Sound Quality, etc.
 
Thanks, 
Chris Dalton
Bluefield, WV






  

 

 

 

 











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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:39:13 -0500
Subject: N&W brass passenger car question and update
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 Division Point update! The BEj baggage car is going to have the "correct
red" ( mistake made at the painters on the M1 RPO).

Also the BEj car is going to be done in the later blue scheme.  I understand
only 10 blue cars may be produced so order early.

Who do I contact about getting plans for the diner car that was built into
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:45:45 -0500
Subject: HO Layout Suggestions
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I have the scale drawings from Mainline Modeler and have scaled them  
for HO.  I am pretty good making molds and such, so the cost of a few  
hoppers for parts and as a starting point isn't that big of a deal for  
me.  The decals for the 1934-1938 time frame might be a bigger  
problem.  If I decide to cast a fleet of them I'll do an article for  
the Arrow.  I want about 30 of them to mix in with Athern 2 bay  
hoppers and the HP's, of which I will only make about 10 more.  I have  
another group of 2 bay hoppers that I like better, but I can't  
remember the manufacturer.  I also did 4 semi-HU's starting with  
Athern 4 bay's but I wasn't really happy with them.

Mark Lindsey
Stuck in the 1930's

On Oct 31, 2009, at 11:36 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:

Mark:  Not that hard to build. The sides are the basic difference from  
a H3 (Yes, you need another hopper) I did one semi-scratch, using  
slope sheets and hoppers from a Bachmann quad (Athearn would be a  
better starting point). This was before the ECW or Broadway H3/H2a  
were available. One of them might give you more to start with, but you  
would still need that extra hopper.    Jim Nichols

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I would like to know if anyone would be interested in the Division Point
passenger cars to be done in primer grey.

The cars would cost the same as fully painted (about $396.00), but you would
have a choice of painting your own the way you like.

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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:06:41 -0800
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I purchased one, I opened the box, looked at it.  Nothing further yet.  It looks good to me, and I am glad that I purchased it. 

Nigel 
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  A question here for the 50's modeling crowd.  Just curious if any of you guys had bought a Broadway Blueline Roller bearing A and if so, how you feel about the model?

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    Bluefield, WV

     
     
         

         

         

         

         
       

     
       
       





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Stephen,
?
So DP IS going to do?unpainted cars? I have emailed them several times asking about the possibility of getting some unpainted cars since the first mention of the cars on their website. They have never bothered to respond. I really would love to get at least one of each of their cars but I think the almost $500 a piece I've seen as list price is just plain crazy! I'm a firm believer in brass but I have to back off from a company that isn't interested in selling their stuff enough to respond to potential customers and who prices their items that high.
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I also experienced the same lack of response from MTH about the impending Powhatan Arrow sets & cars. I WAS going to get 2 sets and about 10 extra D-1 and P-3 cars but now I'm not sure.
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I know manufacturers are busy but I would think answering questions from someone wanting their products would be important to them. Maybe they don't need the money after all?
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I guess I'll stick with my close-enough AHM, Rivarossi & Walthers cars and my Sunset PA sets.
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My 2?,
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I would like to know if anyone would be interested in the Division Point passenger cars to be done in primer grey.
The cars would cost the same as fully painted (about $396.00), but you would have a choice of painting your own the way you like.
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Actually 2 diners were rebuilt into XO business cars (101 & 102) Not aware
of any plans available anywhere (although company diagrams may be of help)
but they had at least 2 incarnations, eventually with welded sides and
sealed windows. Which version do you want plans for? I may be able to work
something up.     Jim Nichols

 

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 Division Point update! The BEj baggage car is going to have the "correct
red" ( mistake made at the painters on the M1 RPO).

Also the BEj car is going to be done in the later blue scheme.  I understand
only 10 blue cars may be produced so order early.

Who do I contact about getting plans for the diner car that was built into
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